Backwards Compatible Volume 2 - Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines

Brian · 2009-02-13, 12:19 PM

This session we are going to be playing Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines.

You all picked it so we're off to the races to give everyone the oppertunity to get thier copies, we will be giving everyone a week, our first discussions will occur on the march 2nd show, where we will have completed chapter 1 (santa monica).

Available through: Steam & Amazon

Weirdo · 2009-02-16, 1:15 AM

The fan patch 6.0 caused my game to screw up, but 5.9 worked fine just as a word of warning to anyone adding the fan made bugfixes.

Psychorider · 2009-02-16, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Weirdo

The fan patch 6.0 caused my game to screw up, but 5.9 worked fine just as a word of warning to anyone adding the fan made bugfixes.

It crashed mine too but I found the solution. If the error you get is "Parent template 'VentrueGhouls' not loaded before dependent template 'NPCGeneric'" then you need to find the file npctemplate024.txt in the directory ...\Vampire\vdata\system in your install folder. Open it and find the line

Code:

"TemplateName"			"VentrueGhouls"
"ParentTemplateName"		"NPCGeneric"

and change it to

Code:

"TemplateName"			"VentrueGhouls"
"ParentTemplateName"		""

It should work after that.

Vash108 · 2009-02-16, 11:32 AM

I own the first one but not the second. Is it worth checking out?

Aaod · 2009-02-16, 11:37 AM

Yes, for the love of god yes.

Brian · 2009-02-16, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Vash108

I own the first one but not the second. Is it worth checking out?

Yeah. Redemption, and Bloodlines are very different games, and bloodlines is a pretty solid game all around.

aberrant · 2009-02-16, 11:43 AM

Bloodlines is the most in-depth, atmospheric, pleasurable PC gamign experiences I have ever had.

It truly suffered from the company folding, I would kill for a sequel.

Brian · 2009-02-16, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by aberrant

Bloodlines is the most in-depth, atmospheric, pleasurable PC gamign experiences I have ever had.

It truly suffered from the company folding, I would kill for a sequel.

what did you think of arcanum?

aberrant · 2009-02-16, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian

what did you think of arcanum?

Don't believe I ever played it - is that the steampunk & magic that Interplay released sometime after Fallout 2?

Brian · 2009-02-16, 11:56 AM

yeah, by the same devs.

Colossal · 2009-02-16, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by aberrant

It truly suffered from the company folding, I would kill for a sequel.

Troika suffered from an inability to put out games that weren't insanely bug-ridden. I loved their games overall, but their technical failures doomed them from the beginning. I've always been surprised they held on as long as they did.

aberrant · 2009-02-16, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian

yeah, by the same devs.

As much as I wanted too, I never got around to playing it. When I inquired about it some years ago, I heard it was "not worth the time"

Colossal · 2009-02-16, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by aberrant

When I inquired about it some years ago, I heard it was "not worth the time"

I enjoyed Arcanum, but the tech/magic aspect wasn't well-balanced at all. Depending on which route you took, the game was either insanely easy or obscenely hard.

aberrant · 2009-02-16, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Colossal

I enjoyed Arcanum, but the tech/magic aspect wasn't well-balanced at all. Depending on which route you took, the game was either insanely easy or obscenely hard.

Out of curiosity, which one was which?

Colossal · 2009-02-16, 12:14 PM

It's been a while, but I want to say most of the end-game baddies were magical in nature. In the game, magic tends to fizzle against pure technologists (same for technology against mages), so you were near invincible if you had focused on technology throughout the game. If you were a mage, the last few fights could be positively brutal.

Striker · 2009-02-16, 12:34 PM

Heh, one of my favorite RPGs ever. It had a lot of flaws (Troika game...), but the atmosphere was amazing. That sense of decay, of a city heading for the apocalypse...very cool.

aberrant · 2009-02-16, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Striker

Heh, one of my favorite RPGs ever. It had a lot of flaws (Troika game...), but the atmosphere was amazing. That sense of decay, of a city heading for the apocalypse...very cool.

That's what I have always been trying to say, Striker. The game just has so much flavor. And it doesn't pull punches, either! The Motel, the video, the sense of... the world is just dark. Even hollywood is dying.

Meatrocket Jones · 2009-02-16, 12:40 PM

my favorite part of arcanum was right after i installed it

i clicked on "play now" after the installer finished and it said to insert the disc

seconds after i had installed it

lol

Smaug · 2009-02-16, 1:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Striker

Heh, one of my favorite RPGs ever. It had a lot of flaws (Troika game...), but the atmosphere was amazing. That sense of decay, of a city heading for the apocalypse...very cool.

I've said it before, I will say it again, and I will continue to say it: there is no better level in any video game made before or since than the Oceanside Hotel level.

That being said there are other moments in VtM:BL that come close.

This is one of my top 5 games ever, bugs and all.

Meatrocket Jones · 2009-02-16, 1:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Smaug

I've said it before, I will say it again, and I will continue to say it: there is no better level in any video game made before or since than the Oceanside Hotel level.

That being said there are other moments in VtM:BL that come close.

This is one of my top 5 games ever, bugs and all.

Too bad about that whole "sewer" thing.

The Ben · 2009-02-16, 2:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kickflip Jones

Too bad about that whole "sewer" thing.

Sewers can still be enjoyable level haunts.

Powerstreak · 2009-02-16, 2:12 PM

A solid game, in terms of fun rather than construction, that felt hampered by itself. It was good enough that I played it to completion without switching over to other games, which is praise enough in one sense, but there was a feeling of something lacking in all areas that could probably be termed the "Troika Effect".

The bugs were/are astounding, the level design is a mix between good and bad, the balance of the powers is poor and the level of "ANGST" hanging in the air was choking (but that's the setting I suppose). If there were a sequel done, by more competent programmers with better support, that had the same aims it would be a real gem.

Edge · 2009-02-16, 2:47 PM

Is the game similar to the other Vampire game that came out a few years before this?

Striker · 2009-02-16, 2:59 PM

The sewer thing really depended on your character build. With my gun-heavy character I breezed through without even slowing down. With a melee/stealth char I didn't have quite as much fun.

aberrant · 2009-02-16, 3:29 PM

The sewers were added to add more "action" and extend the gameplay, I think. My first run through, I was not only melee-centric, but a freaking Ventrue.

2009-02-13, 12:19 PM	#1
Brian Devious, Mischevious, Fun. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Mesa, AZ AKA: Cay	Backwards Compatible Volume 2 - Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines This session we are going to be playing Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines. You all picked it so we're off to the races to give everyone the oppertunity to get thier copies, we will be giving everyone a week, our first discussions will occur on the march 2nd show, where we will have completed chapter 1 (santa monica). Available through: Steam & Amazon __________________ Life Inside The Box Subscribe Via iTunes: or grab the latest episode at Life Inside the Box Last edited by Brian; 2009-02-13 at 12:22 PM.

2009-02-16, 1:15 AM	#2
Weirdo dreidel dreidel dreidel Join Date: Aug 2005	The fan patch 6.0 caused my game to screw up, but 5.9 worked fine just as a word of warning to anyone adding the fan made bugfixes. __________________

2009-02-16, 11:32 AM	#4
Vash108 Abandon All Hope Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gainesville, ga	I own the first one but not the second. Is it worth checking out? __________________ It's not that I don't agree, I just like to argue

2009-02-16, 11:37 AM	#5
Aaod Banzai! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Minnesota.	Yes, for the love of god yes. __________________ Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery. Malcolm X

2009-02-16, 11:43 AM	#7
aberrant Stinky Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Baltimore, MD	Bloodlines is the most in-depth, atmospheric, pleasurable PC gamign experiences I have ever had. It truly suffered from the company folding, I would kill for a sequel. __________________ Criminal Justice League - Law & Order in a 4 Color World

2009-02-16, 11:56 AM	#10
Brian Devious, Mischevious, Fun. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Mesa, AZ AKA: Cay	yeah, by the same devs. __________________ Life Inside The Box Subscribe Via iTunes: or grab the latest episode at Life Inside the Box

2009-02-16, 12:14 PM	#15
Colossal The Talent Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Outside the Perimeter	It's been a while, but I want to say most of the end-game baddies were magical in nature. In the game, magic tends to fizzle against pure technologists (same for technology against mages), so you were near invincible if you had focused on technology throughout the game. If you were a mage, the last few fights could be positively brutal. __________________

2009-02-16, 12:34 PM	#16
Striker Insanity Inc. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Vienna, Austria	Heh, one of my favorite RPGs ever. It had a lot of flaws (Troika game...), but the atmosphere was amazing. That sense of decay, of a city heading for the apocalypse...very cool. __________________

2009-02-16, 12:40 PM	#18
Meatrocket Jones holy shit this coffee Join Date: Aug 2005 AKA: Buzzard, Slowpoke, Kickflip Jones	my favorite part of arcanum was right after i installed it i clicked on "play now" after the installer finished and it said to insert the disc seconds after i had installed it lol __________________

2009-02-16, 2:12 PM	#22
Powerstreak Webcomic Vandal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nottingham AKA: Power Streak	A solid game, in terms of fun rather than construction, that felt hampered by itself. It was good enough that I played it to completion without switching over to other games, which is praise enough in one sense, but there was a feeling of something lacking in all areas that could probably be termed the "Troika Effect". The bugs were/are astounding, the level design is a mix between good and bad, the balance of the powers is poor and the level of "ANGST" hanging in the air was choking (but that's the setting I suppose). If there were a sequel done, by more competent programmers with better support, that had the same aims it would be a real gem. __________________ Updating as and when I make them.

2009-02-16, 2:47 PM	#23
Edge ... Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Denmark AKA: Zeitgeist	Is the game similar to the other Vampire game that came out a few years before this? __________________

2009-02-16, 2:59 PM	#24
Striker Insanity Inc. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Vienna, Austria	The sewer thing really depended on your character build. With my gun-heavy character I breezed through without even slowing down. With a melee/stealth char I didn't have quite as much fun. __________________

2009-02-16, 3:29 PM	#25
aberrant Stinky Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Baltimore, MD	The sewers were added to add more "action" and extend the gameplay, I think. My first run through, I was not only melee-centric, but a freaking Ventrue. __________________ Criminal Justice League - Law & Order in a 4 Color World