[VERY NSFW]Australian Porn and Labiaplasty

[The Jay Cutler Show]

Originally Posted by Damn Skippy

Dear lord, when they show the doctor slicing off the part of the labia minora. I clenched my ladybits so hard I got a cramp. OW. I think I just experienced the same feeling guys get when they see another man get hit in the balls.

I usually laugh when I see another guy get hit in the balls

maybe it's just me

[Atheist Panda]

But but - labia are fun.

sigh. This is a sad world someways.

[Jay]

Has this ever like...affected the outcome of sex for anybody? Has there ever been a person who, upon seeing the woman he/she is about to have sex with, gets a look at her vagina and goes "Whoa hey, no thank you,"? Has that ever happened?

I can't even fathom it.

[The Jay Cutler Show]

I usually say "I'm thinkin Arby's" and dive right in

[Nim]

Originally Posted by Concertina

I feel like they are qualitatively different things, although that could just be on the surface.

I'm curious why. From what I know of the anatomy the two structures are roughly homologous, but watching the clip of labia being surgically removed made me cringe. In a way I don't think male circumcision would have.

I'm having trouble articulating why though. There doesn't seem to be a good clinical reason I've been able to find. There is the element of one (often) being elective plastic surgery and the other often having a more cultural context... but even circumcision for purely aesthetic purposes doesn't create the same level of visceral negative reaction in me.

[Nim]

Originally Posted by Jay

Has this ever like...affected the outcome of sex for anybody? Has there ever been a person who, upon seeing the woman he/she is about to have sex with, gets a look at her vagina and goes "Whoa hey, no thank you,"? Has that ever happened?

I can't even fathom it.

I've known some men really, really dislike visible labia. Likewise there are more than a few women who are put off by uncircumcised men. People put all kinds of emphasis on various visual characteristics, genitals are no different.

[Chrono-Synclastic]

Originally Posted by The Jay Cutler Show

I usually say "I'm thinkin Arby's" and dive right in

I'm dying.

[Psyckogod]

Scissors and scalpels near labia! Gah!

It's a fact that, just like every other outside part of the body, some people have nicer-looking genitals than others. Some ladies have really nice-looking vaginas, others have little Cthulhu mouths down there, but I think when you get down to it, a guy- or a girl- is not going to be put off by a less-neat-looking snapper in the heat of the moment. Unnecessary plastic surgery, probably.

[Jay]

Originally Posted by The Jay Cutler Show

I usually say "I'm thinkin Arby's" and dive right in

jesus christ

[build me a star]

Originally Posted by Psyckogod

Scissors and scalpels near labia! Gah!

It's a fact that, just like every other outside part of the body, some people have nicer-looking genitals than others. Some ladies have really nice-looking vaginas, others have little Cthulhu mouths down there, but I think when you get down to it, a guy- or a girl- is not going to be put off by a less-neat-looking snapper in the heat of the moment. Unnecessary plastic surgery, probably.

Also just for the record, some men and women probably actually prefer "Cthulhu mouths" as you call them (and I know you were trying to be funny, but talking about it that way only perpetuates the whole thing of women feeling bad about their bodies and getting surgery, etc.)

And saying "it's just a fact that some look nicer than others!" isn't gonna work either. Matters of personal taste are not facts! Some men like skinny chicks. Some men like curvy chicks. Some men like big flowery labia, some men like small neat little packages. I know, I know, it's crazy, right?

[Jay]

So long as it's not like, vagina dentata, idgaf

[build me a star]

I mean, I could imagine that having labia that dangle down like, a whole inch or something would be annoying for reasons that have nothing to do with sex (like constant chafing from pants, agh) and maybe even enough so that getting surgery seems warranted.

But it really gets my goat when people unwittingly perpetuate these ideas that there is a "right" way for a woman's body to look, because years of being both overtly and subliminally fed these messages are what motivates women to go get themselves surgically altered in the first place.

[Nim]

Originally Posted by build me a star

But it really gets my goat when people unwittingly perpetuate these ideas that there is a "right" way for a woman's body to look, because years of being both overtly and subliminally fed these messages are what motivates women to go get themselves surgically altered in the first place.

Hey, that's the articulation I was looking for. Thank you.

[Erpin]

Originally Posted by Damn Skippy

Dear lord, when they show the doctor slicing off the part of the labia minora. I clenched my ladybits so hard I got a cramp. OW. I think I just experienced the same feeling guys get when they see another man get hit in the balls.

this. Oh my god, my insides are churning... I get the same feeling when people talk about circumcision for men... arg...

[Jay]

Circumcision for men still vexes me as well. If I ever have a kid (ha!) I'm just gonna let him stay natural. I've done zero research, but is it at all common for grown men to get circumcised?

[Kamileon]

Originally Posted by build me a star

But it really gets my goat when people unwittingly perpetuate these ideas that there is a "right" way for a woman's body to look, because years of being both overtly and subliminally fed these messages are what motivates women to go get themselves surgically altered in the first place.

Yeah, I think this is really the root of the problem with it. And this preference is being made all the worse by people just photoshopping women to look like they want. Granted, the neat little closed labia exist, so it's not the same as a model being photoshopped to be skinny in a way that defies ribcages and internal organs, it's part of a whole societal bag of shit that says "women, what really matters about you is how you look, and THIS is the only right way to look."

[Erpin]

Originally Posted by Jay

Circumcision for men still vexes me as well. If I ever have a kid (ha!) I'm just gonna let him stay natural. I've done zero research, but is it at all common for grown men to get circumcised?

Likewise, and it is extremely common. Most folks think it is more hygienic, but a lot of research has proven otherwise.

[build me a star]

Also pro-tip: if you say things that essentially boil down to, "Hey, don't worry, any man in his right mind should be too horny to care that you have a hideous vagina!" you're still telling someone that they have a hideous vagina.

[Jay]

The whole photoshopping women thing (like, in normal magazines, not pornographic ones) seriously gets to me because I had a lot of my female students back in the states feel HORRIBLE about themselves because of that shit. A few of them straight up passed out during PE because they hadn't eaten in days.

And it's even worse here in Korea. I'd say a good half the female population go in for eyelid surgery by the time they're 25 to make their eyes bigger. A lot of them get it for their birthday present in their late teens.

Originally Posted by build me a star

Also pro-tip: if you say things that essentially boil down to, "Hey, don't worry, any man in his right mind should be too horny to care that you have a hideous vagina!" you're still telling someone that they have a hideous vagina.

I seriously hope I didn't convey this attitude.

[build me a star]

No don't worry, I was talking about Psyckogod.

[Palah El Din]

Idgi. What does this censorship rule hope to accomplish? Who looked at vaginas and thought "you know what, let's make them neater"? And how did they get a board of people to agree with them?

[Nim]

Australia has a slew of really weird censorship laws.

[nekodeev]

Yeah I don't know what the fuck they are so retarded about stuff.

[ieya]

Originally Posted by Erpin

Likewise, and it is extremely common. Most folks think it is more hygienic, but a lot of research has proven otherwise.

There's some slight merit to the hygiene argument.

In as much as, if you don't bother with washing at all, then yes, your penis will end up a bit less disgusting if you've removed the foreskin as you've removed an area where crud can accumulate over time.

I'm not quite sure where the assumption comes from, though, that uncircumcised gents will find it too difficult to spend a couple of seconds a day pulling back the foreskin while showering/bathing to give things a quick clean.

[Jay]

Aussieland's weird about violence and shit too, what with how they clean up video games as well.