Elder Scrolls Online Revealed (A.K.A. The Buggiest Game on Earth) - Page 3

Archangel3d · 2012-05-04, 7:14 PM

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-Public dungeons are essentially instances that aren't actually instanced, so anyone can be in them, so imagine a World of Warcraft dungeon that featured everyone on the server in the area instead of just your party

"Real books are essentially digital books that aren't actually digital, so anyone can read them regardless of platform, so imagine a digital book that was made up of thin "pages" that you could actually hold and interact with, and doesn't need batteries"

Why are they touting something old and fundamentally flawed as a feature? WHY?

Miles Standoffish · 2012-05-04, 7:19 PM

man I remember training frogloks to the entrance in l guk, I hope they have that

Arctyc · 2012-05-04, 7:23 PM

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Why are they touting something old and fundamentally flawed as a feature?

Or completely misrepresenting one of the newer concepts (the Public Quest area ala WHO & Rift).

Nayland · 2012-05-04, 8:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Lapak

Speaking of M'aiq, I have no idea how they're planning to handle Elsewyr. The bizarre biology/culture of the Khajiit is easily dodged around in other territories, but on their home turf you're going to need to address it.

I know.

Quite frankly, the whole thing gives me paws.

Sonny · 2012-05-05, 1:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Trickster

i want to know who wrote that list of features, the way it's written is terrible.

'art style kind of like Rift or Everquest 2'

that's how you're officially billing it? 'kind of like' ? read a dictionary, fuckers.

Although, it really does remind me of EQ 2 in terms of style.

http://www.gamebanshee.com/games/the...tml?tab=images

Varrin · 2012-05-05, 11:23 PM

Looking like EQ2 does nothing but inspire me to flee.

Artemius · 2012-05-07, 5:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Trickster

i want to know who wrote that list of features, the way it's written is terrible.

'art style kind of like Rift or Everquest 2'

that's how you're officially billing it? 'kind of like' ? read a dictionary, fuckers.

To be fair, that list comes from NeoGAF, they're summarizing the Game Informer article, it's not like it's coming direct from Zenimax

**Sam** · 2012-05-10, 4:28 PM

This looks worse than uninspiring. It looks like lore poison. Tiresome MMO convention splits the races into arbitrary factions, and the history of the world builds up to the point of "the entire world is at the brink of war!!!!1 choose your side!!!1"

**Sam** · 2012-05-10, 4:29 PM

b.a.r.f.

Midnight · 2012-05-10, 4:33 PM

When I first heard of this I was like oh cool. But then I read it was basically like every other mmo and was like oh okay never mind.

**Sam** · 2012-05-10, 4:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Artemius

The amount of internet backlash this "reveal" is generating is frankly amazing. Even Kotaku is lambasting it. I've never seen such a negative response for what is supposed to be an AAA title

This is obviously too far in development to cancel or majorly change the game's direction, so I'm honestly curious how Zenimax is going to manage this.

It really is a terrible project bound to fail which cannot even in the prospective developmental and marketing phase provide an inch of confidence in the project. At least all other essentially doomed, sterile MMO conversion ideas had the good sense to fool the crap out of us.

This is the perfect project to be horrified by.

- It involves an adapted franchise that would have all of its most notable elements (in fact, really anything that makes it worth playing) absolutely ruined by the necessary structures and contrivances of MMOs

- It comes at a time in which people have long since become rightfully jaded about MMO's and rightfully reluctant to invest time in Yet Another MMO, since they all seem to follow the same pattern: exhausting people's tolerance with balance issues and bugs, then fading into ghost servers which leave the remainder in a cascade of leavers who feel like their achievements have become meaningless in a social vacuum.

- Where other MMO cash grabs have been similarly fated to the same ignominious end as what we now ruefully anticipate for World of Elder Scrolls Online Quest, they at least managed to string people along with really exciting ideas, stills, or concepts that really make it sound like this time, it could be different™ — whereas with this, the promotional developmental material and commentary is a smorgasboard of MMO development red flags that should warn off any savvy player. They might as well have said "We are invested in throwing money at a really generic and forgettable MMO which fills no niche, won't hold a lot of interest, is poorly designed because of how quickly we had to ratchet backwards from our overconfident original design theory, and will be free to play in months assuming it ever really comes out under the same publisher."

- Top that with a release promo ingame screen which screams 'extremely generic' and we're off to the races

Guessing a better than 50% chance (wish it were more) that the title just gets canceled outright.

Tortuga Mañana · 2012-05-10, 4:40 PM

Has any MMO included cross-faction dungeons, where both groups enter at different sides and may run into each other / fight at some point? Maybe that's even the point: tracking down an enemy group and stopping them? Toss in some wandering monsters and other obstacles to keep things saucy. That would be cool. Anyway this MMO looks boring.

HauntedPixel · 2012-05-10, 4:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

- It comes at a time in which people have long since become rightfully jaded about MMO's and rightfully reluctant to invest time in Yet Another MMO, since they all seem to follow the same pattern: exhausting people's tolerance with balance issues and bugs, then fading into ghost servers which leave the remainder in a cascade of leavers who feel like their achievements have become meaningless in a social vacuum.

This does a really good job summing up my thoughts about MMOs in general. I've become the one thing developers hate and that's a player who realizes that, no matter how pretty the package, these things are a huge waste of time and money.

Miles Standoffish · 2012-05-10, 5:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tortuga Mañana

Anyway this MMO looks boring.

--grayson on every mmo ever

Tortuga Mañana · 2012-05-10, 5:02 PM

yes, I typically do not like MMOs.

Trash Boat · 2012-05-10, 5:06 PM

The Before Watchmen of video games

bata · 2012-05-10, 5:19 PM

The factions aren't completely arbitrary. The thalmor did convince the khajiit to join them with the missing moon incident for example. Though I don't know much about the rest.

Artemius · 2012-05-11, 7:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Tortuga Mañana

Has any MMO included cross-faction dungeons, where both groups enter at different sides and may run into each other / fight at some point? Maybe that's even the point: tracking down an enemy group and stopping them? Toss in some wandering monsters and other obstacles to keep things saucy. That would be cool. Anyway this MMO looks boring.

Not that I remember (maybe DAoC had that, never played it). I do know that this was a thing in Asherons Call 1, but with player factions instead of hardcoded factions, where (specially on the pvp server), guilds would lock down a popular dungeon, in order to farm it in peace, while posting guards at the entrances to gank opposing guild members as they entered. Although the mobs in this case became a nuisance in potential pvp battles more than anything.

Jay · 2012-05-11, 7:02 AM

Seriously, stop making this game. Stop. Cut the losses and make a good game.

FlawedLogic · 2012-05-11, 7:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Tortuga Mañana

Has any MMO included cross-faction dungeons, where both groups enter at different sides and may run into each other / fight at some point? Maybe that's even the point: tracking down an enemy group and stopping them? Toss in some wandering monsters and other obstacles to keep things saucy. That would be cool. Anyway this MMO looks boring.

I never played it, but DAoC had a dungeon called "Darkness Falls." I've been told it was a PVE dungeon/zone that was only open to the server which was in control at the time in RvR -- and if control changed, the new leading server could rush in and fight the guys who were running it. Not exactly what you mentioned, but the closest thing I can think of.

Trickster · 2012-05-11, 8:46 AM

the Schadenfreude i will feel when this game tanks will be immense.

i can't wait.

Jay · 2012-05-11, 9:05 AM

It'll be the most entertaining thing about it

Maxime · 2012-10-06, 4:16 PM

Maxime · 2012-10-06, 4:18 PM

and here is an interview

showler · 2012-10-06, 5:13 PM

There's a trailer on Youtube, that is incredibly boring, and a gameplay video that shows no gameplay but does have a fly-through of some of the various places and dungeons.

Game doesn't look bad, but I dunno about the gameplay.

It does seem like they've scaled up the dungeons considerably (in terms of room size), probably to make room for groups of players in them.

2012-05-04, 7:19 PM	#52
Miles Standoffish Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: MY LIFE FOR YOU	man I remember training frogloks to the entrance in l guk, I hope they have that __________________

2012-05-05, 11:23 PM	#56
Varrin Wizard for Hire Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida	Looking like EQ2 does nothing but inspire me to flee. __________________ "Just because your paranoid doesn't mean there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face"

2012-05-10, 4:28 PM	#58
Sam Stays on tour Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Подсознательны AKA: Dypthropos, This is amazing	This looks worse than uninspiring. It looks like lore poison. Tiresome MMO convention splits the races into arbitrary factions, and the history of the world builds up to the point of "the entire world is at the brink of war!!!!1 choose your side!!!1" __________________ Oi, Sweetheart, wrap this shit up - you're having a nightmare.

2012-05-10, 4:29 PM	#59
Sam Stays on tour Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Подсознательны AKA: Dypthropos, This is amazing	b.a.r.f. __________________ Oi, Sweetheart, wrap this shit up - you're having a nightmare.

2012-05-10, 4:33 PM	#60
Midnight How quaint Join Date: Aug 2005	When I first heard of this I was like oh cool. But then I read it was basically like every other mmo and was like oh okay never mind. __________________

2012-05-10, 4:40 PM	#62
Tortuga Mañana the finest weed in the sou Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Chicago AKA: Grayson, Geethree, Turtle Tomorrow	Has any MMO included cross-faction dungeons, where both groups enter at different sides and may run into each other / fight at some point? Maybe that's even the point: tracking down an enemy group and stopping them? Toss in some wandering monsters and other obstacles to keep things saucy. That would be cool. Anyway this MMO looks boring. __________________ Founding member of The El Burro Gang Beeps & Boops

2012-05-10, 5:02 PM	#65
Tortuga Mañana the finest weed in the sou Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Chicago AKA: Grayson, Geethree, Turtle Tomorrow	yes, I typically do not like MMOs. __________________ Founding member of The El Burro Gang Beeps & Boops

2012-05-10, 5:06 PM	#66
Trash Boat Ignorant man changes name Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Westland, MI AKA: Cedric the Owl, Lightning Lord, Muscular Mordecai	The Before Watchmen of video games __________________

2012-05-10, 5:19 PM	#67
bata Ceci n'est pas le pays bas Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Netherlands AKA: master bata	The factions aren't completely arbitrary. The thalmor did convince the khajiit to join them with the missing moon incident for example. Though I don't know much about the rest. __________________ The freedom to be inoffensive is no freedom at all. I am already against the next war

2012-05-11, 7:02 AM	#69
Jay My Posting Face Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Korealand AKA: Emperor Dick Butt	Seriously, stop making this game. Stop. Cut the losses and make a good game. __________________ I have a blog HERE I have some story things HERE I have a book HERE :I

2012-05-11, 8:46 AM	#71
Trickster 1 year sabbatical Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne	the Schadenfreude i will feel when this game tanks will be immense. i can't wait.

2012-05-11, 9:05 AM	#72
Jay My Posting Face Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Korealand AKA: Emperor Dick Butt	It'll be the most entertaining thing about it __________________ I have a blog HERE I have some story things HERE I have a book HERE :I

2012-10-06, 4:16 PM	#73
Maxime Life in gray Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Montreal AKA: Thanatos

2012-10-06, 4:18 PM	#74
Maxime Life in gray Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Montreal AKA: Thanatos	and here is an interview

2012-10-06, 5:13 PM	#75
showler Doctor Whooooooowwwwlllll! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nova Scotia	There's a trailer on Youtube, that is incredibly boring, and a gameplay video that shows no gameplay but does have a fly-through of some of the various places and dungeons. Game doesn't look bad, but I dunno about the gameplay. It does seem like they've scaled up the dungeons considerably (in terms of room size), probably to make room for groups of players in them.