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Chest Rockwell
2008-11-21, 1:48 PM
Well with Animal Planet's Whale Wars (http://animal.discovery.com/tv/whale-wars/about/), now you can!

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Human
2008-11-21, 1:48 PM
Well, when you describe it like that

Yes

Brock Landers
2008-11-21, 1:49 PM
That show is horrible and everyone that is a part of it is horrible.

Human
2008-11-21, 1:50 PM
Are the whales horrible?

Kickflip Jones
2008-11-21, 1:51 PM
Oh wow, those guys on the whale research ship get flashbangs? That's hella awesome.

Jimmy McForum
2008-11-21, 1:52 PM
Wait, do they fight the whales?

Because that would be something.

b.glad
2008-11-21, 1:53 PM
Yeah, I get a little uncomfortable whenever the commercials for this come on when I'm watching It's Me Or The Dog or Animal Cops or something. :ermm:

Cold Iron Chef
2008-11-21, 1:54 PM
That show is horrible and everyone that is a part of it is horrible.

I agree, both parties are to blame here. They shouldn't be illegally whale hunting, and they have no right to police the waters.

The coast guard/navy should hold them both responsible.

Chest Rockwell
2008-11-21, 1:57 PM
I agree, both parties are to blame here. They shouldn't be illegally whale hunting, and they have no right to police the waters.

The coast guard/navy should hold them both responsible.
The laws in international waters regarding whaling are interpreted in many different ways. I mean, I wish they wouldn't be hunting whales, but there's very little that can be done until there is a consensus reached on the laws. But these guys are assholes.

Peregrine
2008-11-21, 2:00 PM
I like how they're throwing shit (rocks, bricks, molotov cocktails?) onto the other ship, and then get outraged that the other guys are aiming flashbangs right at them.

Interociter
2008-11-21, 2:01 PM
I saw the first one and they deliberately boarded another ship without consent, while flying pirate colors, and then had the balls to tell the world that those men were being held hostage. Neither side has my full sympathy.

showler
2008-11-21, 2:35 PM
The laws in international waters regarding whaling are interpreted in many different ways. I mean, I wish they wouldn't be hunting whales, but there's very little that can be done until there is a consensus reached on the laws. But these guys are assholes.The whalers can take out the whales because the laws are questionable and they have bigger guns. I say apply that rule to the navy in regard to the whalers.

Pickled Kitten
2008-11-21, 5:04 PM
based on japanese law and the laws of international waters there aren't any laws being broken by the whale "research" boats. though I don't agree with what they're doing the sea shepard crew are all a bunch of dumb hippie fucks that I hope get tossed over board again for listening to a derranged asshole that not even greenpeace wants to associate with.

showler
2008-11-21, 5:14 PM
Oh, well if it's the Sea Shepherd then we should throw some French commandos at them and sink the sucker.

Y'know, last I recall we still had one of their ships under arrest down in Sydney....I wonder what happened to that one?

nekodeev
2008-11-21, 5:35 PM
based on japanese law and the laws of international waters there aren't any laws being broken by the whale "research" boats. though I don't agree with what they're doing the sea shepard crew are all a bunch of dumb hippie fucks that I hope get tossed over board again for listening to a derranged asshole that not even greenpeace wants to associate with.

I hope they get fucking eaten by the whales, I mean I know humpbacks don't eat meat and basically have a giant moustache for teeth, but I bet they could still gum you up something fierce.

Bawb
2008-11-21, 5:41 PM
I was forced to watch a a promo for this on a recent outing to the cinema. The folks on the Sea Shepherd hurling what appears to be improvised explosives, and then acting all crazy when the Japanese craft attempts to repel boarders.

These guys are engaging in activities that are more often understood as piracy.

The Japanese boat is operating within the bounds of maritime law. If you don't like it, you can shadow them and attempt to warn off the whales.

When you start ramming their vessel you've crossed a line.

showler
2008-11-21, 6:19 PM
Looked up that Sea Shepherd ship that had been arrested here earlier in the year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RV_Farley_Mowat

Apparently the ship is still being held and the officers are still up on charges, but no trial date set.

Fjord
2008-11-21, 6:34 PM
Do the japanese really eat that much whale?

Phoenix-D
2008-11-21, 6:48 PM
Do the japanese really eat that much whale?

Not really; the government has had to try various enticements to get people to eat it. Its fairly pathetic, actually.

Sam
2008-11-21, 6:54 PM
The whole japanese whaling thing is just that messed up.

Imagine you've got a bunch of crusty old japanese social conservatives. The kind that get a hard-on when they go visit Tojo's tomb. They 'like to keep traditional values alive' in the same way that intelligent design advocates 'like to keep a scientific dialogue active' and one of the things that they do is they try to keep Japan's whaling industry alive by pumping it full of artificial support.

They want to keep whaling active, and one of the ways they do that is they pass initiatives to feed whale meat at schools to try to get the japanese youth to reacquire taste for whale meat to 're-enliven' old ways.

It's pretty lol. It's cyclical industry reinforcement for the sake of upholding bad traditions.

nekodeev
2008-11-21, 8:08 PM
The whole japanese whaling thing is just that messed up.

Imagine you've got a bunch of crusty old japanese social conservatives. The kind that get a hard-on when they go visit Tojo's tomb. They 'like to keep traditional values alive' in the same way that intelligent design advocates 'like to keep a scientific dialogue active' and one of the things that they do is they try to keep Japan's whaling industry alive by pumping it full of artificial support.

They want to keep whaling active, and one of the ways they do that is they pass initiatives to feed whale meat at schools to try to get the japanese youth to reacquire taste for whale meat to 're-enliven' old ways.

It's pretty lol. It's cyclical industry reinforcement for the sake of upholding bad traditions.

Isn't it not even a very old tradition anyhow? Like it was a "whoops we got busted in WWII and are fucked, it's tinned pork & whale meat for all now until we invent tiny electronics"

Fjord
2008-11-21, 8:12 PM
Which brings up my next question. How does whale meat taste like? Failing that how may I acquire some to see for myself? I ask this because I rather not trawl google with such entertaining search strings like "whale meat". It would probably bring new and terrifying forms of furry pornography to my attention that I could go without.

Moe
2008-11-21, 8:34 PM
No, not really.

Peregrine
2008-11-21, 9:09 PM
Which brings up my next question. How does whale meat taste like? Failing that how may I acquire some to see for myself? I ask this because I rather not trawl google with such entertaining search strings like "whale meat". It would probably bring new and terrifying forms of furry pornography to my attention that I could go without.Whale meat tastes exceptionally greasy, I hear. Like half chewed, fatty, pork or something.

Grievous
2008-11-21, 9:33 PM
I like how they're throwing shit (rocks, bricks, molotov cocktails?) onto the other ship, and then get outraged that the other guys are aiming flashbangs right at them.

They're not throwing any of those things. Butyric acid yes. Rocks/Bricks/Explosives no. They claim its non harmful and just makes people nauseated and etc, but its still an acid capable of burning.

Do I like their tactics? No, really. But damn if the crazy shit they do ain't good watching. I'm already (dare I say!) hooked.

Human
2008-11-21, 10:31 PM
update: their second made is a slackjawed nerd.

The Dude
2008-11-21, 10:41 PM
I hope everyone on the ship dies

Aureate
2008-11-21, 10:43 PM
Does the captain look like this?

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/en.futurama/images/thumb/6/64/Free_Waterfall%2C-Sr..jpg/200px-Free_Waterfall%2C-Sr..jpg

Human
2008-11-21, 10:43 PM
SO FAR SO GOOD

boogada
2008-11-21, 10:51 PM
I'm already (dare I say!) hooked.

Don't you mean, harpooned?

Iwacoff
2008-11-21, 11:11 PM
Don't you mean, harpooned?You don't use a harpoon to bring the whale onto the boat, you need a whaling hook for that. :banjo:

Peregrine
2008-11-21, 11:13 PM
I like to imagine that they just kill the whales for sport. I mean, for research.

Jarp Habib
2008-11-21, 11:24 PM
I would not eat whale meat, even if it wasn't morally problematic.

Whales, being the top end feeders of the oceanic food chain, are going to be pretty heavily contaminated with heavy metals and PCBs. Filter feeders like humpbacks probably have it just as bad as the toothed whales do, because of their immense food intake, body fat content and long lives.

Kaete
2008-11-21, 11:57 PM
I love the idea of legally making life incredibly shitty for the whale poachers. Yes, poachers, "research" my shiny white ass.

However everything they seem to be doing on the previews makes me very, very uncomfortable. Throwing what seems to be weapons at the ship?

Get in their way, chase off the whales, blare heavy metal rock at their ship at all hours of the day and night! There's all sorts of options open that can interfere with the guys or make them miserable that don't make you lose that moral high ground in the eyes of the public.

If they weren't doing such questionable things I would be %100 behind them and probably donating money to support such action. But not for this.

HyperionHK
2008-11-22, 12:12 AM
haha, I actually do want to see this show now, to see them get their comeuppance. That was awesome. "Hey let's throw stuff at their boat! OH NOES! Now they are throwing stuff back at us! Those guys are such jerks! Only we're allowed to throw stuff!". Needless to say I also did not feel sorry when they said the Captain had been shot.

It's one of those things that are a noble goal, but the ends do not justify the means

Jarp Habib
2008-11-22, 1:08 AM
Get in their way, chase off the whales, blare heavy metal rock at their ship at all hours of the day and night! There's all sorts of options open that can interfere with the guys or make them miserable that don't make you lose that moral high ground in the eyes of the public.


I would sign up immediately for the chance to sail the seas playing Dethwater with the largest speakers possible

Pickled Kitten
2008-11-22, 10:12 AM
Was I the only one that wished the other small away boat stayed lost at sea last night?

a fucking night attack so the japanese won't know who you are a few hours before you're supposed to get your crew back from them AFTER serious negotiation between the Australian and Japanese governments?

Then the fuckwad captain won't even go shake the hands of the men he endagered for his cause all because "a captain doesn't leave the bridge"?

fuck you. I'm glad you get shot you piece of shit.

I hate the whaling industry but somehow I find myself rooting for the Japanese in all of this. who thought this was a good idea to get people's attention about the negatives of whaling again?

Viper1969
2008-11-23, 9:36 PM
Ugh, what self righteous pricks.

I like how they make a big deal about the Japanese keeping their men hostage. Yes, when someone boards a ship without permission, they're lucky that detaining them was all the Japanese did. Stupid pirate-flag-flying mother fuckers.

Weirdo
2008-11-23, 9:56 PM
I hope everyone on the ship dies

I hope both ships capsize.

The Dude
2008-11-23, 10:08 PM
No I hope the japanese kill a shitload of whales because these people annoy me and fuck whales.

HyperionHK
2008-11-23, 10:59 PM
No I hope the japanese kill a shitload of whales because these people annoy me and fuck whales.

Ya! Nuke the Whales! You gotta nuke something!

Grignard
2008-11-23, 11:23 PM
Eco-freaks aren't exactly doing a great job of it. They need to outsource this to Somalis.

Charion
2008-11-23, 11:44 PM
Those things thrown on deck are to make bad smells and to make the deck slippery I think. Or sticky.

But seriously, putting them on the japanese ship they've been harassing with letters saying it's illegal to hunt humpback? Just to cause an international incident so people would pay more attention to whaling? Putting your crew in that much risk with an idea that you probably thought up while on the toilet?

gaem
2008-11-24, 6:19 AM
Whale meat tastes exceptionally greasy, I hear. Like half chewed, fatty, pork or something.
Backtracking on that note ... here's a longish story from a late friend of mine, who visited Iceland in the early '70s, regarding the handling/preparation of it (after a preface to contrast it with another Icelandic "delicacy").

One of the peculiar things about Iceland--at least from my viewpoint--is that long dead shark is considered a very great delicacy. I was told that it takes years to attain this condition. The shark, thank heaven, has no idea what its horrible fate will be. It is first killed, cut up, and then the pieces are buried for, I am told, seven years! This results in a taste resembling what I imagine an elderly leather saddle which has been soaked in weasel's urine, then dusted with three-week-old yogurt, and finally liberally spread with British Boiled Cabbage would probably taste like. Then, as a further treatment to make it atone for whatever sins it has done, it is dipped in something which smells like a cross between chlorine bleach and the wringings out of Elderly Washcloth!

If you decide to try and eat this unspeakable thing, Icelanders will say that you MUST first have a sip of a beverage which appears to be at least 1800 per cent alcohol, and which will, it is presumed, kill at least some of the taste (to say nothing of one's taste buds)! But Bahá'ís can't, of course, because alcohol is forbidden to us. So I tried it without the drink and with, predictably, awful results.

Even now, 36 years later, when I sometimes wake up at, say, three in the morning, I think my tongue will NEVER forget that taste!

There are, of course, many other wonderful and totally unique things to eat in Iceland than shark which has long since handed in its dinner pail; and one of these, I discovered, was whale. This occurred when I was part of a [Baha'i] teaching team that went around the western and northern part of the country during the early summer of 1971.

Our train of three cars was driving along a coastal road when suddenly, a terrible smell hit us. While those of us from otherwhere than Iceland immediately gagged, coughed, and used a great deal of unprintable language, the Icelanders who were with us went into a state of ecstasy!
"Whale meat!" they exclaimed. "Whale! It is the very best thing in the world to eat!" The rest of us couldn't believe that anyone with more than two taste buds could even contemplate putting anything that smelled as bad as this into our mouths!

Then our cars rounded a headland, and we discovered the source of the awful stink: an enormous whale had beached itself, had died; (despite the stink, we were told, this had happened recently) and already, there were men crawling around and on top of it, using chain saws to slice huge portions of flesh away from its body.

Excitedly, the Icelanders asked the drivers to pull over; we did, and then they ran over to the men and managed to buy a couple of gigantic steaks at an incredibly cheap price: something on the order of 30 cents per five kilograms! We found some plastic wrappings, put the steaks into them, and stashed them away in the cars' trunks, where we hoped, in silence, that the stink wouldn't prove to be irremovable from the clothing we had put in there!

Within an hour, we had found the facility for which we were looking in the town we'd been heading for: a theatre in which we could set up and perform our teaching efforts. We set up our portable inside tents right outside the kitchen, which was where the Icelandic girls immediately--and happily--set to work to prepare the whale meat so that we could approach it without gagging. I watched the process with very great interest.
To our surprise (and great relief, I must add), they immediately sent the men in our team out to a local grocery store to get many litres of milk; when we returned, we all watched avidly as the girls first cut up the steaks so that they would fit into the large roasting pans that had thoughtfully been included in our luggage.

Then they poured all the milk available over, under and around each of the steaks, put lids over them, and put them on high shelves for the night.
In the morning, when they brought them down, the steaks had visibly shrunk (and so, thank heaven, had the stink), for the milk had pulled out of the whale meat all the blubber and other fish-based reek that had characterized the steaks the night before! This was then poured into various shallow saucers and placed outside; and almost before you could draw another breath, there seemed to be a hundred cats out there, all fighting to get to what must have been 'heaven' for them: fish-flavoured milk!

One of the pioneers, Marie van Brunt, who hailed originally from Kentucky, but who, with her husband Don, hailed most recently from Valdez, Alaska, and who had volunteered to do the cooking for the journey, was then asked to just put a few cupsful of fresh water around the steaks, add some potatoes, and put them into the oven, where they were treated just like ordinary beef.

But oh! When they were done, the smell was incredibly wonderful; and even more astonishing was the taste: it was far, far better than the most marvellous beef I had ever tasted! And when you lifted the meat to your mouth, it just about fell off the fork. And suddenly, I knew why gourmets from different parts of the world were ready to brave the wrath of those who wanted to stop the killing of whales.

Brock Landers
2009-06-15, 12:41 AM
I take everything back


This is the best show I've ever seen.

travis
2009-06-15, 12:53 AM
Joe didn't you watch this with us before?

I am a HUGE Whale Wars fan. It is legit one of the funniest things I've ever seen on TV.

Chest Rockwell
2009-06-15, 12:57 AM
I love that the show is myopic to a ridiculous, almost farcical degree.

Brock Landers
2009-06-15, 12:57 AM
Joe didn't you watch this with us before?

I am a HUGE Whale Wars fan. It is legit one of the funniest things I've ever seen on TV.

yeah, and I'm watching it now. And this episode had their little boat go the exact wrong direction despite the other ship being in viewing range.

And now these dumb shits are stuck in ice after yet another instance of them making the absolute worst decision humanly possible.

DaBrode
2009-06-15, 11:40 PM
I like how they're throwing shit (rocks, bricks, molotov cocktails?) onto the other ship, and then get outraged that the other guys are aiming flashbangs right at them.

Watch an episode, they aren't throwing any of those items.


I love the idea of legally making life incredibly shitty for the whale poachers. Yes, poachers, "research" my shiny white ass.

However everything they seem to be doing on the previews makes me very, very uncomfortable. Throwing what seems to be weapons at the ship?

Get in their way, chase off the whales, blare heavy metal rock at their ship at all hours of the day and night! There's all sorts of options open that can interfere with the guys or make them miserable that don't make you lose that moral high ground in the eyes of the public.

If they weren't doing such questionable things I would be %100 behind them and probably donating money to support such action. But not for this.

They are throwing stink bombs that are potent enough to taint the meat and the ships decks so that they can no longer continue the season. It's also unbearable and the crew runs for the cabins rather than working. They are as careful as possible not to hit people and have mentioned it often. I forget exactly how it's wrapped but it's nothing they can really hurt someone with.
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http://animal.discovery.com/videos/whale-wars-butyric-acid-stink-bombs.html

DaBrode
2009-06-15, 11:56 PM
I forget exactly how it's wrapped but it's nothing they can really hurt someone with.

I take this back. Apparently they are bottles so if they were to catch someone in the face unaware it could certainly hurt them. How someone would not see a flying bottle coming from a ship thats along side you, in otherwise open water, announcing that you are engaging in illegal activity through several loudspeakers is beyond me...however I'm sure it's possible.

travis
2009-06-16, 12:30 AM
WIGGITY WIGGITY

WHALE WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHS

"ATTENTION YOU ARE ENGAGING IN ILLEGAL ACTIVITY, OVER. WHALE WARS"

"TO SEA, MY WHALE WARRIORS! TO SEA!"

brrrrrrrrrrrrr br br br

"SAIL ON MIGHTY WARR-OH FUCK THEY FORGOT THE DAMN SATELLITE PHONE. RETURN TO ME, MY WHALE WARRIO-COME BACK! FUCK! God damn it, get Gary in the helicopter. Gary, tell them to come back."

"I'm waving at them, I don't...YOU GUYS! CHRIST! THIS WAY! YOU'RE LITERALLY SAILING AWAY FROM THE BAD GUYS!"

*2 hours later*

"ROUND TWO. SAIL, MY WHALE WARRIORS!"

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr brbrbrbrbrbrbrbr

"HAHA! WE HAVE BOARDED THE EVIL JAPANESE FISHING BOAT! PREPARE TO FACE JUSTICE FROM THE VIGILANTE HANDS OF - oh god HELP HELP THEY'RE ALL AROUND US"

"立ち去りなさい"

"THEY'RE TALKING AT US LIKE NINJAS! WHY DIDN'T WE BRING A SINGLE FUCKING PERSON WHO SPEAKS JAPANESE?! WHALEWARS!?"

"何か。"

"WE HAVE A RIGHT TO BREAK ONTO YOUR BOAT. YOU'RE THE CRIMINALS HERE. I WILL ONLY RECOGNIZE A COURT OF WHALE LAW"

"日本語を話しなさい"

"HE HAS A GUN"

"これは魚である"

"THEY'RE TAKING US TO THE DEATH CHAMBER TO CHALLENGE THEIR IMMORTAL GOD-EMPEROR, MAYDAY, MAYDAY, WHALEWARS, OVER."

"Jesus Fucking Christ, Whale Warriors."

WHALEWARS

Bobulus
2009-06-16, 12:50 AM
Haha, I saw that episode. Yeah, these guys don't seem to go about it the right way.

At least they're bringing some attention to the issue?

I Choose Shorts
2009-06-16, 7:40 AM
Bringing attention to the fact that people trying to stop the killing of whales are tongue-slapping morons, maybe.

"Our boat isn't built for ice, let's charge straight trough an ice bank."

david
2009-06-16, 7:45 AM
I love this show like how I like watching slow-motion car wrecks with yakkity sax playing.

Felden
2009-06-16, 8:29 AM
Very nice Sciarri. :P

Plus, an additional level of hilarity as you have the Japanese guy saying "SOMETHING!" rather than "What?", so it sounds like they're taking the piss out of the whale dudes.

Jarp Habib
2009-06-16, 9:00 AM
Very nice Sciarri. :P

Plus, an additional level of hilarity as you have the Japanese guy saying "SOMETHING!" rather than "What?", so it sounds like they're taking the piss out of the whale dudes.

As the rest of us don't speak japanese, and I know Sicarii don't either, could you translate for us? :D

travis
2009-06-16, 9:12 AM
Very nice Sciarri. :P

Plus, an additional level of hilarity as you have the Japanese guy saying "SOMETHING!" rather than "What?", so it sounds like they're taking the piss out of the whale dudes.:ermm: w-wh-whale wars?

Jimmy McForum
2009-06-16, 9:20 AM
:ermm: w-wh-whale wars?

EXPOSED:

Noted Forumopolologist Lemuel I. V. Sicarii Speaks No Japanese

A Benevolent Picaroon
2009-06-16, 9:23 AM
I just read the wiki entry on the episode "BOILING POINT". Holy shit.

Ajhax
2009-06-16, 10:04 AM
Translated by babelfish.altavista.com

"HAHA! WE HAVE BOARDED THE EVIL JAPANESE FISHING BOAT! PREPARE TO FACE JUSTICE FROM THE VIGILANTE HANDS OF - oh god HELP HELP THEY'RE ALL AROUND US"

"{Depart}"

"THEY'RE TALKING AT US LIKE NINJAS! WHY DIDN'T WE BRING A SINGLE FUCKING PERSON WHO SPEAKS JAPANESE?! WHALEWARS!?"

"{What?}"

"WE HAVE A RIGHT TO BREAK ONTO YOUR BOAT. YOU'RE THE CRIMINALS HERE. I WILL ONLY RECOGNIZE A COURT OF WHALE LAW"

"{Speak Japanese}"

"HE HAS A GUN"

"{This is a fish}"

Chest Rockwell
2009-06-16, 10:11 AM
"WE GOT THEM THEY'RE RIGHT THERE PAST THE ICE"

"We can't go through ice"

"WE WILL DO WHAT IT TAKES GO AROUND THE ICE"

hours later

"We went past where we could've gone in to get them where there is no ice"

"THROUGH THE ICE THEN"

"We could sink"

"WE WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES. DESPITE ALL MY RAGE I AM STILL JUST A RAT IN CAGE. WHALE WARS THEME SONG"

Brock Landers
2009-06-16, 1:15 PM
"WE GOT THEM THEY'RE RIGHT THERE PAST THE ICE"

"We can't go through ice"

"WE WILL DO WHAT IT TAKES GO AROUND THE ICE"



they were all like "this storm is rough, let's cozy up right next to this huge chunk of ice to shield us, ain't nothin wrong with this plan!"

(NIGHT TIME OCCURS)

"yawnnn. oh what's up brand new OH MY GOD WE'RE SURROUNDED BY ICE"

whale wars

travis
2009-06-16, 2:49 PM
"I do it for the whales. Everything I do, 24 hours a day. For the whales."

Chest Rockwell
2009-06-16, 2:50 PM
Everyone please note: all of the events described have actually happened on an episode of whale wars

Charion
2009-06-17, 9:50 AM
Bringing attention to the fact that people trying to stop the killing of whales are tongue-slapping morons, maybe.

"Our boat isn't built for ice, let's charge straight trough an ice bank."

It makes sense when you think about how they insist on serving all vegan meals and when you look at the people in charge. "The drinking got out of hand! You had a party and the fat man couldn't fit in the door, so no more party."

Also, how can a man who eats vegan be so overweight.

JohnnyGravity
2009-06-17, 10:38 AM
I can't believe it's called the Steve Irwin.

Kaete
2009-06-17, 10:46 AM
Also, how can a man who eats vegan be so overweight.

Lots and lots and lots of carbs.

Tomlin
2009-06-17, 11:00 AM
I can't believe it's called the Steve Irwin.

They named it after his death with the blessing of his wife Terri.

Also the items they are actually throwing are stink bombs, while nothing in them is harmful, minus getting hit by them.

I started watching the series this season, and while I agree that we need to protect the species Im not sure I agree with their tactics. Also without knowing the true purpose of the japanese vessels it leaves me jaded.

Ladina
2009-06-17, 11:11 AM
I take this back. Apparently they are bottles so if they were to catch someone in the face unaware it could certainly hurt them. How someone would not see a flying bottle coming from a ship thats along side you, in otherwise open water...

Do you know how hard it is to see a flying bottle comming at you from just across the room? Add to that the sun, a reflective surface like the ocean, weather conditions and the size of the bottle and it's very easy to miss something like that.

whaler
2009-06-17, 11:17 AM
I can't believe it's called the Steve Irwin.

Ahaha wow. It always tickled me that the deadliest catch ship is called "the time bandit"

Viper1969
2009-06-18, 9:53 AM
Apparently, the Captain released a statement (http://www.oceansentry.org/lang-en/menu-sea-shepherd/menu-shepherd-news/2037-captain-paul-watson-dismisses-and-disses-whale-wars-critics.html) regarding the criticism the show receives. That dude has an ego the size of a..hrm...a...well, it's pretty damn big!

Ash Plissken
2009-06-18, 9:56 AM
A few of the critics are professionals paid by the Japanese whaling industry to pollute the Internet with their blogs. Unfortunately, their atrocious English gives them away, along with the repetitive styles and recycled propaganda.
this guy's never been on the fucking Internet before, has he

I Choose Shorts
2009-06-18, 10:11 AM
this guy's never been on the fucking Internet before, has he

This is the same guy who got hit with a piece of shrapnel, bending the badge he keeps under his vest. The badge had a sharp edge and dug into his skin, making a tiny cut.

But to him, he got shot by the Japanese. And is insisting it was gunfire and his "bullet-proof vest" saved him even though there's footage on the show of it not being anything close to a bullet.

travis
2009-06-18, 10:13 AM
"Look at this. This was right over my heart. And there was only the one shot. That's accuracy. They've got snipers in there! Whalewars!"

HyperionHK
2009-06-18, 10:27 AM
This is the same guy who got hit with a piece of shrapnel, bending the badge he keeps under his vest. The badge had a sharp edge and dug into his skin, making a tiny cut.

But to him, he got shot by the Japanese. And is insisting it was gunfire and his "bullet-proof vest" saved him even though there's footage on the show of it not being anything close to a bullet.

Personally I don't even believe it was a piece of shrapnel. I am convinced it was all a farce to create more media attention

Peregrine
2009-06-18, 10:29 AM
Wait, he carries a badge? For what, to prove he's been duly deputized by the whales?

I Choose Shorts
2009-06-18, 10:37 AM
Personally I don't even believe it was a piece of shrapnel. I am convinced it was all a farce to create more media attention

SNIPERS

Wait, he carries a badge? For what, to prove he's been duly deputized by the whales?

For how easily it bent I'm guessing it's the badge he got while protecting Shady Oaks Mall And Country Shops.

Bobulus
2009-06-18, 10:44 AM
Apparently animal planet has a youtube channel.

Driving through ice is dumb:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvEAbi0aPdc

This ship is not good:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ-7pa6gI9I

They are bad at sailing, too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNCTNuX6aSg

david
2009-06-18, 10:45 AM
Apparently, the Captain released a statement (http://www.oceansentry.org/lang-en/menu-sea-shepherd/menu-shepherd-news/2037-captain-paul-watson-dismisses-and-disses-whale-wars-critics.html) regarding the criticism the show receives.
:smug:

Oh, and my favorite part of all this is that Greenpeace says they're nuts.

The Jay Cutler Show
2009-06-18, 10:46 AM
@OP: no

Dataphiliac
2009-06-18, 11:05 AM
Wait a minute. Are these people attacking whale research ships or are they "research ships" that use this as a cover for whale hunting?

If it's the former, that's absolutely abhorrent. If it's the latter, then they're still pretty retarded but I can't bring myself to care more.

Peregrine
2009-06-18, 11:08 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nisshin_Maru

Weirdo
2009-06-18, 11:14 AM
Wait a minute. Are these people attacking whale research ships or are they "research ships" that use this as a cover for whale hunting?

If it's the former, that's absolutely abhorrent. If it's the latter, then they're still pretty retarded but I can't bring myself to care more.

Japan claims whaling research, but they take a lot of fucking whales which makes people very suspicious.

HyperionHK
2009-06-18, 9:42 PM
I'm watching Season 2 now.

I love how it's just as retarded, if not more, than Season 1.

I can't believe people volunteer for this. It's pretty clear that Watson doesn't really give a shit about the safety of any of his crew.

I'm also loving the comments from the former Navy girl basically saying "You know, if the people in charge actually knew what they were doing, we wouldn't be having a problem"

Sam
2009-06-18, 9:51 PM
Apparently animal planet has a youtube channel.

Driving through ice is dumb:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvEAbi0aPdc

This ship is not good:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ-7pa6gI9I

They are bad at sailing, too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNCTNuX6aSg




Good lord, Bobulus.

These three clips alone. Oh my god. They're so dumb they make me angry. That was so god damned dumb arrasgilrtgilrvdybgujnet6bed6yw5

Sam
2009-06-18, 9:52 PM
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HyperionHK
2009-06-18, 9:59 PM
bahahaha. I just saw the end of the 2nd episode where a couple guys are sent to the bottom of the ship to stop potential leaks, and after awhile the camera guy with them more or less "You know what, fuck this shit, I don't have to be here, I'm getting the fuck out of here and going up top! Try not to die!"

travis
2009-06-18, 10:00 PM
It must be terrifying filming that show.

HyperionHK
2009-06-18, 10:02 PM
It must be terrifying filming that show.

definitely, especially since they're just observers. They are in just as much danger as everyone else on the ship, but they probably don't get any say in anything at all.

Chest Rockwell
2009-06-18, 10:34 PM
I love the idea of the camera crew on the ship saying, "Hey, we're heading into ice, so what I need you to do is to run into the ice so I can get some totally awesome shots of it, alright?"

I love the idea of them just hitting the ice even without that request even more.

nekodeev
2009-06-18, 10:36 PM
Haha, the Japanese ship's got the anime computer voice going.

I Choose Shorts
2009-06-18, 10:36 PM
whalewars

DannoHung
2009-06-18, 10:42 PM
I just don't care enough about the hippies or the whalers to give a shit about what they do to each other.

I guess I'd have to lean a little towards the hippies because the whaling is just fucking unnecessary.

Don't Tread on Steve
2009-06-18, 10:42 PM
Captain Watson doesn't believe in the no whales scenario.

travis
2009-06-18, 11:21 PM
I just don't care enough about the hippies or the whalers to give a shit about what they do to each other.okay thanks

BRAVE OR GRAVE!
2009-06-18, 11:24 PM
I just don't care enough about the hippies or the whalers to give a shit about what they do to each other.

I guess I'd have to lean a little towards the hippies because the whaling is just fucking unnecessary.
Thanks for the update, man.

Sam
2009-06-19, 1:18 AM
Oh my lord this is so stupid it hurts me.

What the hell have you done.

Why did you

Why am i

wffffffffffff

Ajil
2009-06-19, 7:03 AM
Meh, I dunno. I kinda think if it takes force to stop people from whaling that is acceptable. Whales are highly intelligent and endangered. The whalers deserve everything thrown against them.

Kaete
2009-06-19, 7:24 AM
I have to admit, being a hippy and all, I'm slightly less upset about throwing smelly shit at whalers as I am about doing it and looking like fucking idiots on national television.

But the whalers? Yeah, fuck them.

Brock Landers
2009-07-17, 8:01 PM
THE WORLD IS A VAMPIRE

Charion
2009-07-17, 8:20 PM
I'm starting to think there was more to the guy being ejected from Green Peace than him taking extreme tactics. He's really a very controlling douche.

Brock Landers
2009-07-17, 8:55 PM
they literally fail every single time they attempt to do anything, these guys are terrible

Sam
2009-07-17, 9:02 PM
they literally fail every single time they attempt to do anything, these guys are terrible

they haven't sunk the boat yet.

Brock Landers
2009-07-17, 9:15 PM
they haven't sunk the boat yet.

not for lack of trying

The Incredible Torch
2009-07-18, 12:10 AM
i have not laughed this hard at a show since i was first introduced to it's always sunny

oh my fucking god

david
2009-07-18, 12:45 AM
Come to think of it, I really would love to have been a fly on the wall when that show was pitched.

The Conqueror Worm
2009-08-08, 2:45 PM
This is the best fucking show ever, and IT KEEPS GETTING BETTER

LAST NIGHT, THE JAPANESE WHALING FLEET KILLED A WHALE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SEA SHEPHERDS

AND NEXT WEEK, THEY WILL KILL MORE

I AM ON THE EDGE OF MY SEAT, TIVOING THIS SHIT SO HARD

mayfly
2009-08-08, 3:05 PM
I have to admit, being a hippy and all, I'm slightly less upset about throwing smelly shit at whalers as I am about doing it and looking like fucking idiots on national television.

But the whalers? Yeah, fuck them.

I'm rooting for the whales. Really, they are the only sentient beings that come out this program well.

The Incredible Torch
2009-08-08, 3:07 PM
I'm rooting for the whales. Really, they are the only sentient beings that come out this program well.
Yeah when I watch this show I just seem to keep on shouting I'M SORRY WHALES YOU DESERVE BETTER

Jimmy McForum
2009-08-08, 3:07 PM
I want a show about ELF blowing up buildings.

THERE is your ratings gold.

The Dude
2009-08-08, 3:09 PM
Go Japan

I Choose Shorts
2009-08-08, 3:19 PM
This is the best fucking show ever, and IT KEEPS GETTING BETTER

LAST NIGHT, THE JAPANESE WHALING FLEET KILLED A WHALE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SEA SHEPHERDS

AND NEXT WEEK, THEY WILL KILL MORE

I AM ON THE EDGE OF MY SEAT, TIVOING THIS SHIT SO HARD

I loved Paul Watson's rage face as he was steering the boat post-whale spearing, like he's having an action movie-esque last stand, but all he can do is grimace and grunt and think about eating ham

travis
2009-08-08, 3:31 PM
oh man i gotta catch that on reruns or something

I Choose Shorts
2009-08-08, 3:34 PM
oh man i gotta catch that on reruns or something

it honestly was the fucking highlight of season 2 so far, we thought it was the season finale for how amazing it was

The Conqueror Worm
2009-08-08, 3:39 PM
seriously, it's like the whaling fleet doesn't even care anymore, it's amazing

they're just like FUCK IT, THEY ONLY HAVE ROPE AND STINK BOMBS, let's just do this shit

[insert river of whale blood and intestines flowing towards a stunned crew on board the steve irwin]

The Conqueror Worm
2009-08-08, 3:45 PM
Oh, and you know how the Japanese whaling vessels have those LRAD sonic cannon things to fuck with the Sea Shepherds when they get too close to their ships? Last night, the Sea Shepherds had a bunch of their crew stand on their own deck holding satellite dishes to pretend to have their own LRAD sonic dealies. It was amazing. They just kept saying WELL IF THEY DON'T LOOK TOO HARD, IT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE LRADS, TOO. :smug:

[insert picture of a bunch of hippies holding disconnected satellite dishes on the deck of a ship]

This is the best TV show.

That Japanese whaling fleet has got to be laughing their asses off by this point.

travis
2009-08-08, 3:45 PM
god damn it why did i miss this

The Incredible Torch
2009-08-08, 3:46 PM
oh my fucking god i cannot believe i haven't seen that episode

I Choose Shorts
2009-08-08, 3:53 PM
Oh, and you know how the Japanese whaling vessels have those LRAD sonic cannon things to fuck with the Sea Shepherds when they get too close to their ships? Last night, the Sea Shepherds had a bunch of their crew stand on their own deck holding satellite dishes to pretend to have their own LRAD sonic dealies. It was amazing. They just kept saying WELL IF THEY DON'T LOOK TOO HARD, IT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE LRADS, TOO. :smug:

[insert picture of a bunch of hippies holding disconnected satellite dishes on the deck of a ship]

This is the best TV show.

That Japanese whaling fleet has got to be laughing their asses off by this point.

no no no the best part was that they weren't even standing on the deck, they were sitting down with the dish on their lap and the white dish cables were in front of the dish still plugged in ten feet above them

The Conqueror Worm
2009-08-08, 4:12 PM
Today, I commissioned like, five different artists to draw Paul Watson's open-mouthed angry face. I will frame each one as they are finished and have a wall full of angry Whale Wars captain.

I am bad with money.

Macktacular
2009-08-08, 4:17 PM
The whale wars guys are pretty lucky. A friend of mine sailed on the Picton Castle and she said if their ship was ever attacked they were prepared to fire flares at the opposing vessel(s). Flashbangs are one thing, but flares are a "holy shit" level of bad thing to have fired at your ship.

It'll never happen on that show of course. But I'd love to see it.

Haha, the Japanese ship's got the anime computer voice going.

"ALL HANDS TO BATTLE STATIONS. PILOTS REPORT TO YOUR HANGERS IMMEDIATELY. PREPARE TO SCRAMBLE ALL MACROSS."

The Conqueror Worm
2009-08-08, 4:20 PM
The Sea Shepherds were actually firing flares at the Japanese whaling vessels last night.

They almost took out their own helicopter in doing so. I LOVE THIS SHOW.

Macktacular
2009-08-08, 4:22 PM
The Sea Shepherds were actually firing flares at the Japanese whaling vessels last night.

They almost took out their own helicopter in doing so. I LOVE THIS SHOW.
Okay that is some seriously dangerous shit right there.

Peregrine
2009-08-08, 4:30 PM
Now I want to see the rage. Are there any pictures, or youtube clips online of that incident?

I Choose Shorts
2009-08-08, 4:31 PM
Okay that is some seriously dangerous shit right there.

i think you mean hilarious

Macktacular
2009-08-08, 4:33 PM
i think you mean hilarious
Only if it means the whale warriors get hurt. Not the Japanese. I support glorious Nippon and their advanced scientific aquatic research.

The Conqueror Worm
2009-08-08, 4:44 PM
Only if it means the whale warriors get hurt.
they almost shot down their own helicopter with flares

Macktacular
2009-08-08, 4:57 PM
they almost shot down their own helicopter with flares
But if it crashed into the Japanese boat and hurt the whalers I'd be sad.

travis
2009-08-08, 5:45 PM
The Sea Shepherds were actually firing flares at the Japanese whaling vessels last night.

They almost took out their own helicopter in doing so. I LOVE THIS SHOW.GOD DAMN IT I WISH I HAD TIVO

Brock Landers
2009-08-08, 6:00 PM
GOD DAMN IT I WISH I HAD TIVO

It'll replay before next week's episode :)

travis
2009-08-08, 6:01 PM
yeah but i hadn't seen the previous one either

OH WELL at least i get half the retardation

I Choose Shorts
2009-08-08, 6:16 PM
yeah but i hadn't seen the previous one either

OH WELL at least i get half the retardation

The previous one was pretty tame, the LRADs were just making noise and not incapacitating much of anything. They pointed the LRAD at the helicopter and the pilot was all "i can feel it in my legs" even though it didn't incapacitate anyone.

Most likely they set up their own satellite dish with a speakerbox to save money and make the Sea Shepherds buy into it.

shonukem
2009-08-08, 6:26 PM
After resisting watching this show due to not wanting to support these assholes, I think I finally need to watch just to see this glorious trainwreck in action.

Just sounds so freaking absurd.

The Conqueror Worm
2009-08-08, 6:30 PM
Man, I'm ready to donate to these guys just so I can get a third season of this.

Whiplash
2009-08-08, 6:32 PM
Man, I'm ready to donate to these guys just so I can get a third season of this.

You should donate faulty equipment.

nekodeev
2009-08-08, 6:33 PM
You should donate faulty equipment.

Or a box of pcp laced weed.

Rufi
2009-08-08, 6:46 PM
oh man i gotta catch that on reruns or something

Its on Hulu... I'm afraid to watch it though, as good as failarity might be, I don't want to risk those idiots making any profit from the show.

The Conqueror Worm
2009-08-08, 6:46 PM
420 SAVE WHALES EVERY DAY

Bronan
2009-08-08, 6:51 PM
"Oh crap, did you see that? Someone took a shot at us! IRWIN, THE JAPANESE ARE SHOOTING AT US, OVER."

"No, copter, that was Paul shooting flares at the Japanese."

"Oh. Well, tell him to watch where he's aiming those things, for God's sake."

"Paul, could you maybe watch your aim? You almost hit the helicopter."

"FUCK EM, ONE COPTER IS A SMALL PRICE TO PAY TO SAVE THE WHALES! WHALE WARS!. *fires off another*

Bronan
2009-08-08, 6:57 PM
I've got a mind to watch this show and take a drink every time the narrator says the words "fail" or "ineffective," just to see if I can make it through a whole episode.

I Choose Shorts
2009-08-08, 7:34 PM
Its on Hulu... I'm afraid to watch it though, as good as failarity might be, I don't want to risk those idiots making any profit from the show.

They can't make any more anyhow, unless Watson gets another ship. The Canadian government reposessed the USS Steve Irwin, we're seeing old footage really.

I want them to make money because I want to continue seeing what is essentially The Darwin Award Show.

Psychorider
2009-08-08, 8:43 PM
They can't make any more anyhow, unless Watson gets another ship. The Canadian government reposessed the USS Steve Irwin, we're seeing old footage really.

That was their other vessel, the RV Farley Mowat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RV_Farley_Mowat). As far as I know they still have the MV Steve Irwin (not USS).

Macktacular
2009-08-08, 8:44 PM
They can't make any more anyhow, unless Watson gets another ship. The Canadian government reposessed the USS Steve Irwin, we're seeing old footage really.

I want them to make money because I want to continue seeing what is essentially The Darwin Award Show.
This is a different ship from the Farley Mowat that's being held in Sydney... so that's two ships the Canadian government is holding.

I'm pretty proud of my country right now.

Canada: Fuck whales.

*edit* Thanks Psychorider for clarifying. CANADA YOU GOT ANOTHER SHIP TO TAKE GET TO IT.

I Choose Shorts
2009-08-08, 8:57 PM
That was their other vessel, the RV Farley Mowat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RV_Farley_Mowat). As far as I know they still have the MV Steve Irwin (not USS).

sweet

i want nothing to stop the influx of televised stupidity

Macktacular
2009-08-08, 9:02 PM
Can we start another series where a group of forumites pool their money to buy a cabin cruiser and try to take down an anti-whaling vessel while it's busy attacking a "research" ship?

We can call it Whale Wars Wars.

The Conqueror Worm
2009-08-08, 9:17 PM
You are all a bunch of idiots! It is against international law to whale and the japanese ignore it. There is no one else in the world trying to enforce it except sea shepherd.

At least someone is willing to do something instead of sitting on their ass watching tv and criticizing.

Anyone who thinks that what the japanese does is ok should be shot with a harpoon gun and dragged onto a ship to die an agonizing death. Something tells me your perception might change.

Shriketastic
2009-08-08, 9:22 PM
You are all a bunch of idiots! It is against international law to whale and the japanese ignore it. There is no one else in the world trying to enforce it except sea shepherd.

At least someone is willing to do something instead of sitting on their ass watching tv and criticizing.

Anyone who thinks that what the japanese does is ok should be shot with a harpoon gun and dragged onto a ship to die an agonizing death. Something tells me your perception might change.

Well why don't you grow your hair out wear hemp pants and go with those hippies then

The Conqueror Worm
2009-08-08, 9:37 PM
can i get white guy dreadlocks too

The Conqueror Worm
2009-08-14, 3:06 PM
~~REMINDER~~

Tonight on ANIMAL PLANET

http://i26.tinypic.com/1038yvo.jpg

HyperionHK
2009-08-14, 3:19 PM
The bit with Paul Watson firing flares at the Japanese, despite the fact that you can't aim them for shit, was awesome. Doubly awesome when the Helicopter thought the Japanese were shooting flares at them, then found out it was Paul, told him to be fucking careful, and Paul just shrugged it off and kept on pointlessly shooting flares.

I also love how upset they get when the Japanese use the same tactics against Sea Shepard. "WHAT?! They're using our tactics against us? THOSE INHUMAN MONSTERS!!!"

Athos
2009-08-14, 3:23 PM
I'm kind of curious why the Japanese boats don't carry paintball guns loaded with cayenne pepper balls, or balls full of superglue to fire at the Sea Shepherds. They get close enough to be hit with things like that.

Not that I support whaling, but the stupidity of Watson's team makes me want to see them fail.

I Choose Shorts
2009-08-17, 7:24 AM
Folks, if you missed Friday's amazing new episode of Whale Wars, keep in mind Lanky McPubestache the first mate says "No more whales will be killed today."

As a magical response sent to me from God Himself, I watched in sadistic glee as over the course of an hour, the Nisshan Maru proceeded to harpoon, shoot, and gut up FIVE WHALES. The entire episode was the Sea Shepherd's looks slack-jawed and dumbfounded at how the whalers did not give a flying shit, throwing large chunks of whale organs into the ocean. So many episodes of cockteasing and it's rewarded us with a monumental failure.

Whaling continues today.

HyperionHK
2009-08-17, 8:05 AM
the episode was great. I can't wait for the finale. This episode was basically Sea Shepherd standing around watching Whales get killed, and realizing how ineffectual they are.
Not that I approve of the whaling, but I don't approve of Sea Shepherd either.

The finale looks good. In the preview it looks like they get pissed off enough at watching the whaling in front of them, that they ram a harpoon ship or something.

Charion
2009-08-17, 7:24 PM
It's sad to say but... I've started hoping that the Sea Shepards just ram one of the Japanese boats. I can't imagine they wanted to do anything but cause the helicopter to crash after using an LRAD on it.

Macktacular
2009-08-17, 9:29 PM
It's sad to say but... I've started hoping that the Sea Shepards just ram one of the Japanese boats. I can't imagine they wanted to do anything but cause the helicopter to crash after using an LRAD on it.
Which boat do you think would come out the worse for it if the Sea Shepard did ram one of the Japanese boats? This is Japanese construction we're talking about here. It's probably made out of the same stuff they made the old grey brick gameboys out of.

HyperionHK
2009-08-17, 9:52 PM
Which boat do you think would come out the worse for it if the Sea Shepard did ram one of the Japanese boats? This is Japanese construction we're talking about here. It's probably made out of the same stuff they made the old grey brick gameboys out of.

Shit, in that case, it could probably survive the apocalypse, Sea Shepherd doesn't stand a chance

HyperionHK
2010-01-06, 11:11 AM
Apparently Bob Barker gave Sea Shepherd $5 million to buy an Icebreaker, that they kept on the down low until recently. And it seems that just today there was a collision between Sea Shepherd's new bat-boat, and a Japanese Security ship, that resulted in the bow being sliced off the bat-boat, and it probably sinking.

I can't wait to see this season of Whale Wars, lol

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100106/ap_on_re_as/as_antarctica_whaling


SYDNEY – A conservation group's boat had its bow sheared off and was taking on water Wednesday after it was struck by a Japanese whaling ship in the frigid waters off Antarctica, the group said.
The boat's six crew members were safely transferred to another of the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society's vessels, the newly commissioned Bob Barker. The boat is named for the American game show host who donated $5 million to buy it.
The clash was the most serious in the past several years, during which the Sea Shepherd has sent vessels into far-southern waters to try to harass the Japanese fleet into ceasing its annual whale hunt.
Clashes using hand-thrown stink bombs, ropes meant to tangle propellers and high-tech sound equipment have been common in recent years, and crashes between ships have sometimes occurred.
The society said its vessel Ady Gil — a high-tech speedboat that resembles a stealth bomber — was hit by the Japanese ship the Shonan Maru near Commonwealth Bay and had about 10 feet (three meters) of its bow knocked off.
Locky Maclean, the first mate of the society's lead ship, said one crewman from New Zealand appeared to have suffered two cracked ribs, but the others were uninjured. The crew members were safely transferred to the group's third vessel, though the Ady Gil's captain remained on board to see what could be salvaged, he said.
The group accused the Japanese ship of deliberately ramming the Ady Gil.
"They were stopped dead in the water when the incident occurred," Maclean told The Associated Press of the Ady Gil. He spoke by satellite phone from the ship, the Steve Irwin.
"When they realized that the Shonan Maru was aiming right for them, they tried to go into reverse to get the bow out of the way but it was too late. The Shonan Maru made a course correction and plowed directly into the front end of the boat," he said.
Glenn Inwood, a New Zealand-based spokesman for the Institute of Cetacean Research, the Japanese government-linked body that carries out the hunt, disputed Sea Shepherd's account, saying video shot from the whaler showed the conservationists' boat moving toward the whaler just before the collision.
"The Shonan Maru steams to port to avoid a collision. I guess they, the Ady Gil, miscalculated," Inwood told The Associated Press. "Sea Shepherd claims that the Shonan Maru has rammed the Ady Gil and cut it in half — its claim is just not vindicated by the video."
Japan's Fisheries Agency said it was still checking details about the clash. Spokesman Toshinori Uoya said there were no injuries on the Japanese side.
It was not immediately clear what would happen to the Ady Gil. Sea Shepherd said in a statement posted on its Web site that the boat was "believed to be sinking and chances of salvage are very grim."
Sea Shepherd sends boats to Antarctic waters each southern summer to try to stop the Japanese whaling fleet from killing whales under what it calls a scientific whaling program. Conservationists and many countries say the program is a front for commercial whaling.
Each side routinely accuses the other of dangerous activity during what has become a cat-and-mouse chase in one of the world's most remote regions.
Australia and New Zealand — which both have Antarctic territories and are among the closest nations to the waters where the hunt goes on — have urged both sides to show restraint, warning that they are far away from rescue if anything goes wrong.
"Our strongest condemnation applies to any violent or dangerous activity that takes place in these remote and inhospitable waters," Australian Environment Minister Peter Garrett said Wednesday. He said he could confirm the collision, but that details were still unclear.
Wednesday's confrontation with whalers marked the first for the 1,200-ton Bob Barker, which rescued the crew. Sea Shepherd only recently bought the ship after its namesake, the former host of the "The Price Is Right" game show and a longtime animal rights activist, donated the money. Barker met Sea Shepherd founder Paul Watson through a fellow activist and said he was instantly impressed.
"He said he thought he could put the Japanese whaling fleet out of business if he had $5 million," Barker recalled. "I said, 'I think you do have the skills to do that, and I have $5 million, so let's get it on,' so that's what we did."
Barker, 86, said he was "genuinely proud" to be associated with Sea Shepherd.
The Ady Gil, meanwhile, clashed earlier Wednesday with another Japanese ship, the whaling fleet's mothership, the Nisshin Maru.
The Institute of Cetacean Research said the Ady Gil came "within collision distance" of the Nisshin Maru's bow and repeatedly dangled a rope in the water that could have entangled the ship's rudder and propeller.
The Ady Gil's crew lobbed small projectiles designed to release a foul smell, and the whalers responded by firing high-powered hoses to keep the Sea Shepherd vessels away, the institute said in a statement.
"The obstructionist activities of the Sea Shepherd threaten the lives and property of those involved in our research, are very dangerous and cannot be forgiven," it said.
Maclean confirmed the earlier clash.
Japan's whaling fleet left in November for its annual hunt in Antarctic waters. Uoya said that for security reasons, details of the fleet's composition, the number of whales it hopes to take and the number of crew members are not being released to the public.
The Ady Gil is a 78-foot (24-meter) black-painted trimaran made of carbon fiber and Kevlar in a design meant to pierce waves. It was built to challenge the record for the quickest circumnavigation of the globe and can travel faster than 46 mph (75 kph).
Sea Shepherd unveiled the Ady Gil last October saying a California millionaire with the same name had donated most of the money for it. At the time, the group said the boat would be used to intercept and physically block Japanese harpoon vessels.

The Conqueror Worm
2010-01-06, 11:17 AM
YESSSS

Peregrine
2010-01-06, 11:18 AM
Spay or neuter your whaling vessels.

ieya
2010-01-06, 11:28 AM
Will actually be rather sad if the Ady Gil sinks; she was originally called the Earthrace (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthrace), which I saw last time I was in Cape Town.

Truly amazing looking boat, with a tri-hulled wavepiercing design.

Jarp Habib
2010-01-06, 12:20 PM
On the one hand, these guys do some horrible crap in the name of conservation, and should expect collisions from their risky actions.

On the other hand, I want to call bullshit on the Japanese story. Maritime law dictates that under most circumstances, you turn to starboard to avoid a collision. Now, it's not exactly quick and easy, there are 300 page tomes dedicated to the laws and circumstances of maritime collision avoidance under nearly every weather condition and situation imaginable, but the general rule of thumb is RIGHT TURNS ONLY, while the Japanese claimed they went to port.

On the OTHER other hand, this was a case of small boat vs big boat. If the small boat jumped in front and suddenly found itself engine dead, it might not have mattered which way the Japanese ship went.

And a speedboat really ought to be able to outmaneuver a 500 ton steel behemoth. If they wanted to get out of the way, they really should have been able to unless they decided to move when the Shonan Maru was literally right overhead.

Jarp Habib
2010-01-06, 12:57 PM
Ok, two intersting videos. One from the Shonan Maru, and one from the Bob Barker

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My thoughts: The Shonan Maru appears to have turned (starboard) toward the Ady Gil, only turning away to port when they had almost made contact. It looks like the starboard turn could have cleared it if the Shonan had fully committed to it earlier, but that would have been a very risky maneuver.

Meanwhile, it looked as if the Ady Gil was under idle power the entire time, and did cross the beam of an already-moving vessel.

Conclusion: If both captains hadn't been aggressive assholes, the entire thing would not have happened. Go figure! If the Ady was there out of some kind of engine failure and couldn't move the entire time, I'd blame the Shonan for not taking adequate action. But since the Ady PUT itself there, it's kinda "LOL WHAT DID YOU EXPECT"

Athos
2010-01-06, 1:09 PM
And now for some reason.. I have Eric Cartman singing Poker Face stuck in my head..

suncrush
2010-01-06, 1:09 PM
I heard from a less-than-reliable source (Lex & Terry in the Morning) that the Ady Gil was sunk by the whaling fleet in a collision and that footage will be on the finale.

It was Lex & Terry though, so the odds of that being false are high.

I find it astounding that these people are such douchebags that they are making people root for Japanese whalers.

travis
2010-01-06, 1:11 PM
truly, the world IS a vampire

Jarp Habib
2010-01-06, 1:12 PM
I heard from a less-than-reliable source (Lex & Terry in the Morning) that the Ady Gil was sunk by the whaling fleet in a collision and that footage will be on the finale.

It was Lex & Terry though, so the odds of that being false are high.

I find it astounding that these people are such douchebags that they are making people root for Japanese whalers.

You should maybe scroll up two or three posts.

Peregrine
2010-01-06, 2:54 PM
What a waste of an awesome boat.

Macktacular
2010-01-06, 4:51 PM
Watching those videos I can't help but come to the conclusion that the Ady Gil lurched forward in the last few moments, not backward. As for the Japanese vessel turning too late I can only assume that a vessel of that size does not turn as sharply or as quickly as a smaller ship. It might very well have already been starting it's turn before that. The second video does make it look like the ship is moving to go parallel of the Ady Gil and is fairly aggressive but that could be angle or waves or anything, it's hard for me to say. The two perspectives make it look totally different. But in both it looks to me like Ady surged forward and in front of the ship, not attempting to go backward and the Japanese ship compensating and trying to hit it.

That's what I get out of the videos. Jarp, you get something else. You might very well be right. I am not an expert on boats.

Here, let's have some GIS'd pictures up as well. Because bat-boat is not descriptive enough and the videos don't really let you appreciate the boat.

Before:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/Ronald_MacK/ady-gil.jpg

After:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/Ronald_MacK/article-1262771282118-07C5741700000.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/Ronald_MacK/Japan-rams-Sea-Shepherd-Ady-Gil.jpg

whalewars

*edit2* Oh, and if anyone has been wondering about the RV Farley Mowat, the Sea Shepherd vessel seized by the Canadian government;

On 27 February 2009, the Canadian Crown-in-Council (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen-in-Council) announced that the Farley Mowat was being put up for sale to cover approximately CAD$500,000 in berthing fees accrued since the April 2008 seizure.[/URL] Subsequently, the Farley Mowat was reportedly sold for [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_dollar"]CAD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RV_Farley_Mowat#cite_note-10)$50,000, but the buyer did not complete the transaction and as of September 2009 the ship is still in the possession of the Canadian government and continues to accrue berthing fees.[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RV_Farley_Mowat#cite_note-seashepherd.org-9) Sea Shepherd later stated that the seizure of the ship had been expected, and in fact, encouraged. Therefore, it had been used in provocation, with the full intention to have the Canadian government end up with, in their opinion, a more or less worthless vessel.[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RV_Farley_Mowat#cite_note-11)
The Farley Mowat arrived in Halifax on December 18, 2009 and is now in layup at that port.

I have $5000. I could have bought this boat.
Maybe we can have a forum donation drive and buy the boat.

HyperionHK
2010-01-06, 4:56 PM
I am an expert on boats, and from repeated viewing of those videos, I can verify that there are in fact boats in those videos

showler
2010-01-06, 5:11 PM
Nice way for Sea Shepherd to repay Farley Mowat for his support.

Macktacular
2010-01-06, 5:26 PM
I know, right? That's what I thought when I read that line too.

Peregrine
2010-01-06, 5:29 PM
I think it was actually cooler back when it was the silver/grey. The black is just trying too hard.

Also, it had nothing to do with Whale Wars when it was silver.

Macktacular
2010-01-06, 5:38 PM
With the bow missing it looks like it used to be named the Lady Gil and the L was chopped off.

nekodeev
2010-01-06, 5:43 PM
I love how these guys have poisoned so many people against environmental causes that people would love to personally go rape a minke whale just to drink its tears.

Peregrine
2010-01-06, 5:47 PM
I love how these guys have poisoned so many people against environmental causes that people would love to personally go rape a minke whale just to drink its tears.
Paul Watson's tears.

DaBrode
2010-01-06, 6:07 PM
I guess I don't get where all the Whale Wars hate is coming from? It's not like the crew of the Irwin are alone in their belief that these animals are endangered and shouldn't be hunted. Is it really unlike those that prevent poachers in Africa? Is it because that is ACTUALLY illegal and this is still a gray area as far as the law is concerned?

I wouldn't mind one of you that seems to hate these guys and their efforts explaining that angle a bit more. I'm not a fan of the show because it's trendy. I generally like what they are doing and find it a noble cause. I can appreciate their passion for what I think is a noble cause. If cows were on the brink of extinction I wouldn't argue about not eating beef anymore. It seems common sense to me really.

If you are into this show I highly recommend "The Cove (http://www.thecovemovie.com/)". It's a documentary about a much less aggressive approach to a very similar thing. It's very good.

EDIT: In re-reading my post I realized it comes off kinda whiney. That wasn't my intent. I generally want to know the reasons behind some of the opinions here because I'm wondering if my current opinions are poorly based on wrong information.

Chest Rockwell
2010-01-06, 6:14 PM
I'd recommend The Cove even if you dislike Whale Wars, because the people in that documentary actually accomplish things and are not completely incompetent.

DaBrode
2010-01-06, 6:17 PM
I'd recommend The Cove even if you dislike Whale Wars, because the people in that documentary actually accomplish things and are not completely incompetent.

Yeah but doesn't the Steve Irwin prevent whale deaths every year with it's interference? Not all of them, but some? And aren't those dolphins in The Cove still being killed every year even though some people got fired, etc?

Again, I feel like I'm missing something and I'm trying to learn from this conversation more about the varying opinions.

Mongoose
2010-01-06, 6:24 PM
My view of this is that the Japanese justification of "research" is flimsy at best, and outright lies at worst. The Sea Shepheards methods however are incredibly negligent and sometimes even criminal (ie bombing ships in dock) and because of how they carry out their direct action methods they do a disservice to more legitimate conservation organizations who are trying to do advocacy work in the area of the whaling of endangered populations.

e: The above is specifically talking about the Japanese whaling issue. The Society has done some very good work in South America to help curb over-fishing there.

Macktacular
2010-01-06, 6:27 PM
Yeah but doesn't the Steve Irwin prevent whale deaths every year with it's interference? Not all of them, but some? And aren't those dolphins in The Cove still being killed every year even though some people got fired, etc?

Again, I feel like I'm missing something and I'm trying to learn from this conversation more about the varying opinions.
I don't think people object to the mission, just how it's carried out. The Captain on Whale Wars make decisions that aren't just reckless but in some cases criminally negligent and could seriously harm or kill not only members of his own crew but those of the Japanese vessels as well. It's been mentioned that the stink bombs they throw are a type of acid and that if it were to make contact with human skin could cause a lot of damage. There was also discussion about the Captain's decision to take the boat through ice despite it not having a winterized hull when there was an equally viable ice-free option that would have allowed him to continue his mission without any delays.

A lot of very unsafe actions, a lot of incompetence, and a lot of lies, basically.

DaBrode
2010-01-06, 6:37 PM
because of how they carry out their direct action methods they do a disservice to more legitimate conservation organizations who are trying to do advocacy work in the area of the whaling of endangered populations.

I guess I don't get this part? Can you explain how? Again, just trying to understand the perspective better.



*snip*

A lot of very unsafe actions, a lot of incompetence, and a lot of lies, basically.


Ok this I understand but I guess my reasoning is that although it's not my immediate passion and therefore not something I would be willing to do in the way that they do it...it's not like it's a secret to the crew. Everyone on that boat has signed up knowing that serious injury/death is a distinct possibility. Not that this means the Capt has the right to make it happen, but erring on the side of caution is not what they do and I think they make that clear.

showler
2010-01-06, 6:41 PM
Sea Shepherd are also a bunch of assholes who regularly come into Canadian waters to interfere with a legal seal hunt, lie about what they and the sealers are doing and put a lot of people's lives at risk while committing criminal actions.

edit: and Watson is a self-aggrandizing idiot who loves spending other people's money.

Mongoose
2010-01-06, 6:45 PM
I guess I don't get this part? Can you explain how? Again, just trying to understand the perspective better.

It pretty much boils down to that I'm generally not a supporter of violent direct action except in extenuating circumstances.

Macktacular
2010-01-06, 6:46 PM
Mongoose brought up a point I forgot; no one is condoning the whaling done by the Japanese ships. The excuse is paper thin and the act completely unnecessary. If we do say things that support the act of whaling I can say with fair certainty that they are said in jest.

I'm sure the people on the ship are aware they can be hurt or injured. But I don't think they necessarily know just how much UNNECESSARY risk they are being put into because of a Captain's poor decisions. Sending a crew member down into a hull of a ship that has not been winterized, a hull full of ropes and other things that are easy to become entangled in, to watch the hull and ribs for bulges or breaches because the captain wants to take the ship through ice, something the ship was not designed or truly capable of, when an alternate route was available, known and would actually allow them to arrive in less time than plowing straight ahead; that's a pretty bad decision, and it is one of many.

tl;dr There are acceptable risks for any cause. But this does not give a Captain, a position which means they are responsible for the well-being of all those aboard his ship, to act without considering the consequences. They're not just protesting, they're doing it by choosing some of the worst actions possible. When they choose to do something they often do it in the most inept or dangerous way when they are easily capable or have the resources to do the same action or get the same results another way.

*edit* Also what showler said. Sea Shepherd has a really bad reputation for doing things illegally and lying.

DaBrode
2010-01-06, 7:19 PM
Fair enough, I think I get your take better than I did. I guess I'm just an anarchist at heart and I believe that violent acts are sometimes deemed ok as long as those doing them know the danger involved and the people on the receiving end are not the direct target. For example, when you toss your brick through the starbucks window in protest, do it when they are closed and hopefully the innocent people don't get hurt :).

That's not to say there won't be casualties in an act of protest but that's not the intent. Again, it's not my cause so you won't see me out there screamin' bloody murder everytime a whale is stuck and dragged up onto the deck but it does piss me off that whaling exists and the savage in me thinks the force used is adequate and the danger involved is acceptable.

Shriketastic
2010-01-06, 7:20 PM
Fair enough, I think I get your take better than I did. I guess I'm just an anarchist at heart and I believe that violent acts are sometimes deemed ok as long as those doing them know the danger involved and the people on the receiving end are not the direct target. That's not to say there won't be casualties in the skirmish but that's not the intent. Again, it's not my cause so you won't see me out there screamin' bloody murder everytime a whale is stuck and dragged up onto the deck but it does piss me off that whaling exists and the savage in me thinks the force used is adequate and the danger involved is acceptable.


...

Peregrine
2010-01-06, 7:27 PM
It's good to know that violence is ok as long as the people being violent are aware of the dangers to themselves.

Now if you'll excuse me, I've got to go burn down some buildings. I realize that I might get a little scorched, but I'm willing to take that risk.

HyperionHK
2010-01-06, 7:32 PM
It's good to know that violence is ok as long as the people being violent are aware of the dangers to themselves.

Now if you'll excuse me, I've got to go burn down some buildings. I realize that I might get a little scorched, but I'm willing to take that risk.

Just make sure the people probably aren't in it. But if they are, fuck it, that's cool too, you knew the danger, can't make an omelette withing breaking some eggs!

Peregrine
2010-01-06, 7:35 PM
I figure, as long as I'm only trying to burn the building down, it's cool if the people can't get out in time. I mean, they're not the direct target

Mongoose
2010-01-06, 7:42 PM
Well that sure is an... unflinchingly honest statement.

DaBrode
2010-01-06, 9:09 PM
Well that sure is an... unflinchingly honest statement.

That's kinda how I am I suppose..."unflinchingly honest". Everybody has their causes and to some they are important enough to jeopardize human life. In Captain Paul's case it's whales. I think it's a noble cause and since human life is no more precious than that of a whale in my eyes why not risk one to save the other. Again, not my first choice but that's why I'm not engaging in it myself.

Peregrine
2010-01-06, 9:16 PM
I like how you seem to think the only risk here is to the people on the Sea Shepherd boats.

DaBrode
2010-01-06, 11:57 PM
I like how you seem to think the only risk here is to the people on the Sea Shepherd boats.

Sorry if I was unclear but I'm not saying that at all...

I guess I'm just an anarchist at heart and I believe that violent acts are sometimes deemed ok as long as those doing them know the danger involved and the people on the receiving end are not the direct target. For example, when you toss your brick through the starbucks window in protest, do it when they are closed and hopefully the innocent people don't get hurt :).

That's not to say there won't be casualties in an act of protest but that's not the intent.

Peregrine
2010-01-07, 12:10 AM
Fair enough. I just figured you thought people only had the right to jeopardize their own lives.

travis
2010-01-07, 1:32 AM
nothing says anarchism like pointless vandalism with a chance of hurting innocent people

well, actually, that pretty much is the 21st century definition of anarchism =/

Kickflip Jones
2010-01-07, 1:37 AM
Sorry if I was unclear but I'm not saying that at all...One could say... they're collateral damage...

Ben Wyatt: Human Disaster
2010-01-07, 1:40 AM
nothing says anarchism like pointless vandalism with a chance of hurting innocent people

well, actually, that pretty much is the 21st century definition of anarchism =/i suppose if you blog about it afterwards

and tweet your manifesto

Charion
2010-01-07, 1:58 AM
I'm really loving this south park episode in relation to this thread.

Vaal
2010-01-07, 2:09 AM
I think it's a noble cause and since human life is no more precious than that of a whale in my eyes why not risk one to save the other.
For this to even begin to make any sense, you would have to rate whales higher than humans.

Would you trade me this fifty dollar bill for that fifty dollar bill? No, because it's meaningless. Except in your case, you're callously sacrificing your own.

And if you do value whales more than humans, well, I'm sure someone here can insult you better than I can.

Shriketastic
2010-01-07, 5:00 AM
That's kinda how I am I suppose..."unflinchingly honest". Everybody has their causes and to some they are important enough to jeopardize human life. In Captain Paul's case it's whales. I think it's a noble cause and since human life is no more precious than that of a whale in my eyes why not risk one to save the other. Again, not my first choice but that's why I'm not engaging in it myself.

There are honestly no words.

Hideo
2010-01-07, 1:04 PM
There are honestly no words.

I can think of a couple, but they're pretty rude.

Nayland
2010-01-07, 1:38 PM
I can think of a couple, but they're pretty rude.

Well, you could always protest his post by letting off a biological weapon in his place of residence. Hopefully he's not within a five mile radius when it goes off, but if he is, well that's not the intent :)

Macktacular
2010-01-07, 7:14 PM
whalewars

lepke1979
2010-01-07, 9:48 PM
From another forum:

http://www.ecorazzi.com/2009/10/18/earthrace-reborn-sea-shepherd-unveils-the-ady-gil/


As expected, Watson made it clear that he intends to place the Gil in harms way — particularly as an “intercept and blocking” weapon against the Japanese fleet. Sounds like a risky game of “chicken” — but Ady Gil Captain Pete Bethune is ready for the challenge.”If they ever hit us with an explosive harpoon it’ll be massive damage,” he told Ecorazzi during the summer (http://www.ecorazzi.com/2009/08/28/exclusive-the-earthrace-begins-a-sea-shepherd-transformation/). “But certainly we’ll do our best to get in their way. If they hit us it will always be their guy that pulled the trigger — but hopefully things won’t come to that.”





After watching several other SS video's using the Ady Gil, its fairly clear what happened.

In the moments (possibly hours) leading up to the collision, the SS crew abord the Gil can be seen cutting S turns infront of the Maru, shining a green laser at the crew on deck, including hitting the lens of the video camera the cameraman is using. They can also been seen coming along side and shining the laser directly into the bridge before racing off to cut S turns in front of the Maru again.

After watching the SS video shot from the SS Irwin, and piecing in the other pictures, and video this is what it looks like to me.

For an undisclosed amount of time, the Gil was making those S turns to stay in front of the Maru. This is the reason the Maru can be seen turning into the Gil, the SS video cuts in right as the Gil was poised to make another run across the bow of the Maru. However, they chopped their engines to idle while angling beam to the Maru. The captain of the Maru, seeing this tried to correct, and you can see the Maru begin to swing away from the SS vessel. In an effort to make the Maru come to a complete stop the captain of the Gil guns his motors and actually pulls infront of the Maru again. At this point, it was too late for the Gil to reverse, the Maru was already turning as hard as she could and had two choices. Straighten out, take the Gil broadside, or try and save the lives of the crew of the Gil.

Looking at the impact, I would say that the crew on the Gil, is alive only because that Japanese captain saved their lives. I doubt they did much if any damage to the Maru, and she was easily capable of plowing directly over the Gil.



Take it for what you will. Personally, it looks like Watson got what he wanted. A lot of press. And if they want to be seen or act or pretend that they are like pirates, then the Japanese should do whatever they deem necessary to deal with them. Even if it comes down to sinking them.

Peregrine
2010-01-08, 2:06 PM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/sea-shepherd-lodges-piracy-charge-against-japanese-ship/story-e6frf7jo-1225817530111

They've apparently decided to accuse the ship that hit the Ady Gil with piracy.

Ben Wyatt: Human Disaster
2010-01-08, 2:07 PM
i hope the entire ady gil crew goes to prison for a few years

Athos
2010-01-08, 2:17 PM
Anyone got a gif of that southpark episode.. the part where Paul Watson gets harpooned?

travis
2010-01-08, 2:18 PM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/sea-shepherd-lodges-piracy-charge-against-japanese-ship/story-e6frf7jo-1225817530111

They've apparently decided to accuse the ship that hit the Ady Gil with piracy.This is why I hate the Sea Shepherds. The Japanese actions are legal. The Sea Shepherds acts are, at absolute best, barely legal. At worst, they're international terrorism/piracy. They need to nut up and accept their status. The way they go crying every time the Japanese do something - usually in an attempt to counter or stop something the SS started - is pathetic and not a winning strategy.

Brock Landers
2010-01-08, 2:24 PM
This is really fucking funny, but I'm wishing I could have resisted reading about it and actually seen it happen on the show. That would have been priceless.

Peregrine
2010-01-08, 2:32 PM
I wonder what, if any, difference them going to the Netherlands will make. They say there was a single person from there on the boat, and that the Steve Irwin was registered there, but why not in New Zealand, where the Ady Gil is registered? Are they jurisdiction hunting, or what?

Marten
2010-02-14, 10:27 PM
The crew of the Japanese whaling ship the Shonan Maru 2 is searching the vessel for an anti-whaling activist who managed to scramble aboard the ship in the Antarctic Ocean during the night.

Pete Bethune, who captained the Sea Shepherd vessel Ady Gil until it sank after a collision with the 491-ton Shonan Maru 2, was able to board the moving ship at 6:29am Perth time and is planning to carry out a citizen's arrest of the captain of the whaler for the deliberate destruction of the Ady Gil and attempted murder of its six crew.
Mr Bethune, of New Zealand, also has a bill for $3 million to present to the master of the ship for the cost of replacing the Ady Gil.

He was put aboard the 52-metre vessel, which helps the Japanese fleet carry out lethal research whaling on behalf of the Institute of Cetacean Research, from a jet ski ridden by Briton Larry Routledge. The two men reportedly positioned themselves in front of the vessel as it moved at 14 knots, enabling Mr Bethune to avoid anti-boarding spikes in the port side of the Shonan Maru 2 and climb aboard.
Mr Bethune has stated that he will demand that the skipper of the Japanese vessel surrenders himself to the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society or take his ship to the nearest Australian or New Zealand port and turn himself in to the legal authorities.
"This was an impossible mission," Captain Paul Watson said in a statement from the Sea Shepherd vessel the Steve Irwin. "Captain Bethune boarded a Japanese whaling fleet security ship at high speed in total darkness, breached the spikes and anti-boarding nets and is presently onboard and the Japanese crew are still not aware that he is there. He is there to demand justice for the sinking of his ship."
Mr Watson believes his colleague will be held as a prisoner aboard the whaling ship after this latest escalation of the conflict over whaling in the Antarctic Ocean.
In Tokyo, Toshinori Uoya, a spokesman for the Far Seas Fisheries Division of the Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries, told The Daily Telegraph, "We understand that one activist has illegally boarded the Shonan Maru 2 but we have not yet apprehended him.
"We are now collecting information from the rest of the fleet."

Oh, these guys are just priceless.

Peregrine
2010-02-14, 10:38 PM
If they were smart, there wouldn't actually be any boarder, it would just be them trying to make the whalers paranoid.

travis
2010-02-14, 11:10 PM
If they were smart, there wouldn't actually be any boarder, it would just be them trying to make the whalers paranoid.
world's biggest 'if'

Peregrine
2010-02-14, 11:17 PM
Normally, I would say I was confident that's what's going on, because how dumb would you have to be to show your hand before it's played for a little bit of publicity? But...

showler
2010-02-15, 6:18 AM
If they're pissed off enough, the boarder will "flee overboard" without ever presenting his "charges" and will never be seen again.

Jay
2010-05-21, 1:33 PM
Just started watching the first season of this on Netflix. fucking hilarious.

Riv
2010-05-21, 1:49 PM
Isn't boarding another ship an act of piracy, or at least against some kind of maritime law?

Athos
2010-05-21, 1:55 PM
Just started watching the first season of this on Netflix. fucking hilarious.

Once you're done, you have to watch the Southpark episode.

Chest Rockwell
2010-05-21, 2:01 PM
This show would actually be cool if the sea shepherds weren't completely incompetent, because the Japanese whaling industry is pretty fucking evil, but ugh, it's so hard to root for these idiots.

I Choose Shorts
2010-05-21, 2:38 PM
New season coming soon!

Jay
2010-05-21, 3:29 PM
This show would actually be cool if the sea shepherds weren't completely incompetent, because the Japanese whaling industry is pretty fucking evil, but ugh, it's so hard to root for these idiots.


I totally agree. I spent the latter part of Jr. high and all of high school in the US Naval Sea Cadet Corps (sort of like Boy Scouts but with a Navy bent), and spent time at a Naval base, aboard a Merchant Marine ship, and in the company of seasoned Navy men and women for years.

Watching these people on the ship is both hysterical and infuriating. They have no concept of procedure, chain of command, anything. They're their own worst enemies, and honestly, the Japanese just need to sit back and watch the fuckers hamstring themselves.

EDIT- I would love to do a less retarded version of something like this. go out on the high seas, have an adventure, do something positive. Just you know, not with idiots and crazies.

Space Zombie
2010-05-21, 3:49 PM
I should probably watch this.

Chest Rockwell
2010-05-21, 3:54 PM
EDIT- I would love to do a less retarded version of something like this. go out on the high seas, have an adventure, do something positive. Just you know, not with idiots and crazies.You should watch the documentary The Cove. It's about a group of environmentalists that want to expose the cruel practices of Japanese dolphin hunters, and they are not incompetent. Special appearance by Sea Shepherd captain Paul Watson!

Jay
2010-05-21, 7:39 PM
Holy shit they have the stupidest plans.
What do they honestly expect sending a bunch of people over to a rival ship with a warrant they made up to do? It's like a little kid plan.

HyperionHK
2010-05-21, 7:45 PM
Holy shit they have the stupidest plans.
What do they honestly expect sending a bunch of people over to a rival ship with a warrant they made up to do? It's like a little kid plan.

publicity

Jay
2010-05-21, 7:53 PM
Still, good god.

Psychomancer
2010-05-21, 8:10 PM
You should watch the documentary The Cove. It's about a group of environmentalists that want to expose the cruel practices of Japanese dolphin hunters, and they are not incompetent. Special appearance by Sea Shepherd captain Paul Watson!

I agree with the Celebrated Mr. Jackson about The Cove. I went in with my much-more eco-active wife expecting to be preached at for two hours. What I saw was basically the closest thing I think I will ever see to Shadowrun: The Documentary. A daring team of specialists. Vigilante black ops. A greedy megacorporation. An indifferent government. The lives of thousands hanging in the balance. It was a shock to me- I mean, I loves me my burgers and seafood, and I'm pretty comfortable with where most of my chow comes from, but this was just gut wrenching. The idea that there are these fishing syndicates that are fully aware of the fact that they are trying to peddle meat that has something like 1200 parts per million mercury in it. And they want to feed this stuff to kids! I don't care if whale meat tastes like orgasm, I don't want that.

Yeah, the captain of these galoots gets interviewed in the film. I was more than happy to tune him out. The film stands well enough on its own merits.

Sea Shepard is doing it wrong. We don't have the power to make Japan (or any of the other countries, Iceland and Norway, I think) stop whaling. That power lies with the Japanese people. There has to be a way to tap that power for the betterment of everyone, but harassing the boats just isn't cutting it.

ieya
2010-10-08, 11:55 AM
And with a little new information on this (yes, warning, this is a bump to an old thread) ...

Anti-whaling activist claims he sank protest ship for publicity

An animal-rights activist has claimed he sank his own protest ship in an attempt to "garner sympathy with the public and create better TV" during a clash with a Japanese whaling ship.

Peter Bethune, a former member of the Sea Shepherd activist group, also claimed Paul Watson, the organisation's chief, wanted the Ady Gil trimaran to sink after it collided with the Shonan Maru II in the Southern Ocean in January.

The row is the latest twist in an increasingly ugly public war between the two men that has threatened to overshadow the start of the Antarctic whaling season.

Images of the stricken Ady Gil, its bow shorn off, were beamed around the world at the time, generating attention for the anti-whaling group's cause. The hi-tech craft, which had been lauded as the Sea Shepherd's "secret weapon" against the whalers, sank two days later.

Mr Bethune, who was on-board the craft at the time but has since left Sea Shepherd, claimed that Mr Watson wanted the boat to sink to generate publicity.

"It was definitely salvageable, it was still rock solid from the engine room back," he told Radio New Zealand.

Mr Bethune, a New Zealander who spent five months in custody in Japan earlier this year after illegally boarding the Shonan Maru II a month after the high-seas collision, said he had cut all ties with Sea Shepherd.

"I think an organisation that relies on public money and public generosity to survive has an obligation to be honest," he said.

While Ady Gil, the US businessman who donated £600,000 towards the boat which bore his name, has backed up Mr Bethune's claims, Mr Watson denied the allegations, claiming that Mr Bethune was simply bitter over his falling out with the organisation.

"No one ordered him to scuttle it. Pete Bethune was captain of the Ady Gil, all decisions on the Ady Gil were his," he said.

Sea Shepherd distanced itself from Mr Bethune when he as awaiting trial in Japan earlier this year for boarding the Shonan Maru II but later said it was a ploy to try to ensure the activist received a light sentence.

Mr Bethune was given a two-year suspended sentence in the Tokyo District Court last July after pleading guilty to obstructing commercial activities, trespass, vandalism and carrying a knife, with which he cut the ship's security netting.Or in short, the captain of the Ady Gil plus Ady Gil himself say it was sunk for publicity. Leader of Sea Sheperd says oh no it wasn't.

Who to believe ... such a quandary!

Psychomancer
2010-10-08, 11:27 PM
I thought the part where he went to jail in Japan was for publicity.

Syndicate
2012-03-27, 9:43 AM
Which brings up my next question. How does whale meat taste like? Failing that how may I acquire some to see for myself? I ask this because I rather not trawl google with such entertaining search strings like "whale meat". It would probably bring new and terrifying forms of furry pornography to my attention that I could go without.

My grandfather had several different types in his tavels, he said for the most part it is nasty, looks amazing, but tasted horrible.

He did say seal was really good in some scandinavian country or other, and one type of whale meat (this was 60s-70s I think)

Shriketastic
2012-03-27, 9:56 AM
holy thread necro

showler
2012-03-27, 10:00 AM
I cannot get over how far into the archives a new person will go.

Brock Landers
2012-03-27, 10:06 AM
did those kids win the Whale Wars?

Shriketastic
2012-03-27, 10:12 AM
WHALE WARS

Syndicate
2012-03-27, 12:27 PM
Well I posted this and then I saw the date, it was coming up on page 1 for me.

my bad...

I suppose the Southpark episode has been mentioned, I only went in a few pages... *embarassed*

Headless Ballerina
2012-03-27, 1:41 PM
I started reading the first few posts, I was all "hm, hm, okay, interesting, you'd think I'd remember this, oh wait it's from November -- AND ALSO FOUR YEARS AGO."

Ash Plissken
2012-03-27, 1:46 PM
Man, I really have no concept of time anymore. If you had asked me to guess how long ago this thread was started, and how long ago the last post had been, I would have undershot both by about half.